Healing Naturally: Traditional Chinese Medicine, Energy Medicine & Quantum Cupping | Holistic Health, Fascia Care & Endometriosis Healing

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0:08 Hello and welcome back to another exciting episode of the Fitness Wisdom Podcast. Today we have a very special guest, Mila Botter. She's a holistic health practitioner specializing in quantum cupping, but also energy and frequency medicine. So if you're interested in quantum biology and circadian biology and energy medicine in general, you're absolutely going to love this episode. So welcome to the show, Mila. It's a pleasure, nice to have you. Thank you. Thank you. I really, really appreciate it.

0:33 It's an honor to be here. The reason why I actually asked you to, no worries. The reason why I actually asked you to come on the the podcast is because I noticed your Instagram page and you know, your title of your page is quantum copying, right? And I'm very interested and passionate about, of all things, voltage, you know, charge, fascio system, bioelectricity, and you seem to talk a lot about that through your Instagram. But I would be really interested to hear how you got into doing that kind of practice in the 1st place.

1:06 Where did it all begin for you? Well, long, long, long, long, long time ago, I used to have endometriosis. I don't know if you are familiar with the disease, but it's a very crazy disease that causes a lot of pain. And I was very young. I was around like 2425. Today I'm 49. So it was like a long, long, long time ago. The thing is like, I went to the doctor's, like was jumping doctor from doctor to doctor and nobody, they really wanted to like remove my uterus from my body. And I was just 24 years old and also was like very, very well, young.

1:48 And I was looking for new ways to, to treat this, this disease because I didn't want to lose my uterus and my family, right? I was young, I didn't have like a family yet. So I came across traditional Chinese medicine and, and they asked me to come three times a week for three months and mainly they were performing cupping therapy. So after three months I got this miracle that I was almost free of in the endometriosis. But but of course I changed my lifestyle too. You know, I had to like change my diet, I had to start moving my body.

2:31 I had to start going outside nature because traditional Chinese medicine is huge in nature. It, it came from nature, right from the doubt teaching so was my little miracle. I was like completely fascinated by traditional Chinese medicine and decided to go to school. And then I went to Pacific College of Oriental Medicine is a master's degree, is a 40 years degree. You learn everything about the body like Physiology, pathophysiology, everything. But instead of medication, we're going to use lifestyle changes, diet, cupping, therapy, acupuncture, Moxa Boston like Moxa Twina is like another technique that is included in Chinese medicine.

3:22 And I was doing together the massage therapist school as well. So I was doing the massage school and the in the in the doctor's degree and everything together. Yeah, that's how everything started. So it was basically through your own personal struggle, it basically forced you to go down this rabbit, rabbit hole. Yeah, to realize, hey, like the conventional medical paradigm is not helping me here. And they're actually wanting to do surgeries on me and give me pills and all this stuff. And you thought like, no, I need to take, you know, health and responsibility into my own hands.

3:57 And you prove to yourself that actually there are other alternative ways out there and that I guess that lit the fire in you to go down and search for the truth and. It's funny the way that it works because it's almost like you have this deep knowing that there is something else available to you. You just need to kind of TuneIn and align to this new reality, you know, and was was just funny because I started to feel things that I didn't felt before and was kind of a strong guidance. And it's like it is this deep knowing that you know, but you don't know how you know.

4:39 It's kind of. It's intuitive. A weird feeling. It's very, yeah, it's very intuitive. So, and when like I was talking with this guy about my problem and he was a doctor in, in, in, in TCM, traditional Chinese medicine. And he, and then he goes like, OK, give me 3 months. Just give me 3 months and let's see how it goes. And I, I didn't have anything to lose. Was my last resource, you know, yes. And it's funny how the body, like respond to it and yeah. If there was 1 substance that could increase your energy levels, optimize mitochondrial function, boost ATP production, help to optimize your hormones, re mineralize the body with ionic minerals, boost cognitive function, assist detoxification and support your gut health via the microbiome.

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6:27 Because this is this is the thing when you go to school and you graduate, you, you come out of school very into the books, the systems and you want to you want to play by the book. I'm so sorry. I don't have like a support system here, though. We're going to be like. Oh, no worries, It's OK. After, like, coming out of school fresh, I was trying to practice everything that I was learning in school, right? Like location of the points and channels. Like I was kind of applying the same protocol in every patient, the same, and was not working, you know, because everybody's different.

7:07 Yeah. And then I came across Doctor Joe Dispenza, like all those, like amazing teachers, and was learning about this flow, this quantum field, the entanglement between the practitioner and the patient. And I started noticing that during my treatment, I had like a different flow for every single person, but it was a flow that I didn't learn in school, but it was a flow that was actually taking over the, the, the practice, the body, right? So it was almost like an energy guiding energy that was guiding the the treatment.

7:57 And it took by surprise because I was not expecting this interaction with people was an interaction that I didn't understand back then, right? But was so, it was so interesting because when I was doing the Chinese medical school, we have classes that open up our meridians in the hands. We have Tai chi, we had Qigong. So we learn how to play with energy in our own body, and during those classes, I want to start feeling this field of energy moving throughout my body and moving physically my body. So my body was moving without me moving the body.

8:47 Wow. So. Was very important that this that's crazy because this this channels was just opening up. I was almost like I had all my channels completely blocked and throughout school was so cool because they they offer treatment for students for a very little price. So I took advantage of it and I was treating myself for four years over there too. So I noticed that my my meridians was kind of open up and by open up, I was moving in a different way in the world. You know, I know that's a little crazy, but that that that was kind of my, my experience.

9:28 So the quantum cupping comes from this intuitive way to read energy and every patient, every client, the energy it's different. So the points example we, we, we have a point in the stomach channel. Stomach 36 is a point located close to the knee area for four fingers down on the right for is is not the same location for everyone. Sometimes this point of energy, it's a little up. Sometimes this point of channel, it's a little down, sometimes it's a little left or right. So and when I was starting to practice the point, I was doing the same point, the same location and everyone and it was not working.

10:15 So the quantum came from this intuitive way to read people's body and get results faster. So it was just like, OK, and then I was learning more about what is this energy? What is this flow? Where is coming from? What? How do I have to use it? It's, it's kind of been very interesting journey. You were saying back there that you know, this all sounds crazy, but to me it doesn't sound crazy at all. Because the deeper you go down this rabbit hole of energy in frequency medicine and you understand that every single thing in the universe has its own unique electromagnetic frequency or signature, right?

10:55 Like caffeine has its own signature, alcohol, nicotine, like all these different compounds, your energy, love, happiness, gratitude. So if you've got these like frequencies, right, they are being emitted by your brain and or your body and you're able to transfer that energy to your environment. And we understand now more as well about the bio field, how we have this 6 feet field that extends all around our body, which is, you know, sharing this Energy Information. I can imagine that when you as the practitioner is aiming to help the patient and you are channeling this intentional healing energy and thoughts into your hands or whatever kind of practice you're doing with them, the outcome, the outcome can be so much greater.

11:40 But I guess my question to you would be for the audience and also for myself, how would you describe this energy? Like how does it feel? So, for example, when you are building this bond and this connection with the client or the patient, how can you actually identify where there is something wrong in the body energetically? Well, it's a very gentle energy. It's not something that is super strong. It's a very gentle energy. What I do with my patients, like before treating them, I kind of scan their body and by scanning with my hands, I can feel the blockage in my hands.

12:15 So usually my hands going to stop there or it's going to feel like wants to contract. That is like a certain type feeling. Yeah, that is something is there, you know, and by the location, the channels and points. And then I'm going to apply everything that I learned in school because I can, OK, I can, I can make something happen here. But first I need to know where is the block, the blockage? And of course, by talking with the patient and understanding life situations, lifestyle and everything else, I kind of can complete the treatment.

12:52 But the feeling of this energy is different for every single person and, and is I feel it everything that they are feeling too. So The thing is I had to learn also how to manage my time and how many people I see per day because that is a limit of energy available, you know, So in the beginning I was seeing like a lot of people in one day from 9:00 to 6:00. I was trying to work inside the matrix, like, like from 9:00 to 6:00. Yeah. And then, you know, I was getting very, very sick. Very, very sick.

13:30 I couldn't move next day and I had to learn that my diet has to change if I want to keep going and work with this type of energy. I cannot eat whatever I want. I'm going to have to support my body because now this channel is open, another type of energy is coming through. And if I have the wrong diet, the energy doesn't flow. And if the energy doesn't flow, I don't move. If I don't move, nothing happened with the patient, you know, so was like almost like really learning how to live again. I had to relearn how to live.

14:06 I had now I know that I need to drink lots of water, mineral salt, go to the sun every three to four months and stop and really get into nature. So but this this energy is supposed to feel very gentle, but the body needs to be very relaxed in order for you to flow with this energy. Because I feel like the energy is available for everyone is in the field. And if you turn in and you can kind of move with the energy and you can understand, it's almost like before my body was offline. And after opening up the meridians and removing the blockages, now it's online.

14:45 Now I can reconnect with with the field and I can reconnect with people that it's in front of me, you know, So yeah, you cannot be rigid like you need to be kind of flowing. It's hard to explain. So basically you are like an antenna, you know, we're in a way to like receive information from your environment and also the patient that you're working with. But it seems that, you know, our modern world and everything modern and comforts these days has made us that our antenna is switched off or dampened, right?

15:18 Because our intention and our thoughts and attention is now going towards things that don't really matter so much. You know, in our reality. It's just, it's just more so that we're just focusing now on the wrong things rather than on the things that truly matter. We believe that the digital world is as real as the physical world. And this is something which is very dangerous because a lot of people when they get so hooked on the online world, when they see something online, they automatically think that it translates to reality.

15:49 And the biggest example of this is what happened in COVID where everybody was, you know, locked in inside and locked inside and scrolling their phones and their tablets and their, and their laptops. And basically it was the greatest test, compliance test to see whether something on your, yes, one, one of the, whether there's something on your screen is going to alter your consciousness. It's going to alter your your behavior basically and change the way that you act. And it did because so many people fell for the, for the big lie, basically, you know, that actually happened.

16:26 It was very, it was very, it was very unfortunate, but it was also a great awakening for many individuals, many people who were just on the brinks of kind of, you know, waking up like they had a total like, you know, wake up and those who were not ready, they went into the opposite direction. But, you know, we all get there eventually. But I'm just kind of saying how susceptible the mind is to, you know, manipulation. And if you use things like like technology, you can turn the body offline and away from its intuitive and natural senses.

17:01 So all of these things that we're talking about, if somebody who believed in COVID obviously is not going to be believe in our discussion right now because you know, it's just, it's such an it's on an energetic level that we are working on a microscopic level, on a quantum level. But a lot of people don't actually realize the electromagnetism governs biochemistry. And this is like exactly, you know why I love talking to people like you because you actually have such a in depth understanding. You're working from the energetic level impacting people's Physiology.

17:32 And I guess your patients getting better is the actual proof that this stuff actually works, right. So, so maybe tell me a bit, tell me a bit about what, what are the benefits of quantum cupping in general? Like what, why would someone do cupping in the 1st place? What are the benefits that you get from cupping? So it can be, can, can kind of treat everything because we came from a basic understanding that inflammation is the base of every chronic disease, right? So if your body is inflamed, your body is prone to all types of diseases.

18:11 So we usually, I, I have patients like they come to quantum copying as their last option. We, when we are never the first option, like we are always the last option. But that's OK because they, they tried everything already and now they are trying something new like me like 20 years ago, you know, so, and so cupping first is going to take care of inflammation and then we're going to obstruct, like we're going to clear the obstruction of the, the, the TCM Meridian. So everything that is blocking the energy, the chi we call chi in TCM.

18:52 So chi is this vital energy that's supposed to be flowing throughout your body free. And when you have any type of blockage, that can be a physical blockage like a fascia adhesion or a scar or like muscle that is very tense but can be also energy. Example, the spleen in TCM is an organ that is related to overthinking over worry rumination, right? If you are in this mode of overthinking over worry and rumination of thoughts, your spleen channel is going to be blocked. So cupping, quantum cupping has the power to unblock those meridians, so it can kind of regenerate this flow of Qi.

19:37 And by regenerating the flow of Qi, you're gonna be like regenerating your bio electrical field around your body, around your cells, around your systems. So that is this flow of energy that it's innate. The body knows how to flow your energy, but with diet and lifestyle, and sometimes with physical injuries, you can. Block those meridians and by blocking one point or 11 Meridian you are blocking all systems. So when you won't block a little bit of if you have like just a one area that is blocked in, you can unblock this, this area, everything flows.

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21:19 But you can always go as deep as you want because the audience is quite knowledgeable here on this podcast. But so feel free to obviously simplify if you feel like it's necessary. But I also love to hear the technical terms too because it's all good for us to learn. So for example, how do you know where to place the cups on the body? For example, you talked about the spleen, like if someone has an issue with the spleen, like where would you place the cup with it? Is he always on the back or do you press it also on the front of the body on top of the organ or or how does it work?

21:51 Wow. In TCM you have like the meridians that they are like freeways in the body and they have points and every point has a location and has a function. So I'm going to use the point location and the point function as a blue, like as a blueprint. But I'm also going to use how I scan the body to understand where the blockage actually are. And some people have like multiple blockages, right? And I cannot read everything at once. So I'm gonna try to map down to one point where I can really treat it.

22:33 For example, I say like spleen because it's a channel that it's very deficient in moms and CEOs because they have to make a lot of decisions, right? They are all the time, like over worry, overthinking, but at the same time making a lot of decisions and decision making. We usually use the gallbladder channel, so I'm gonna kind of combine splint is splint points with the gold bladder points. Sometimes junction of points is almost like a chess game. That's why everybody has a different protocol, because I need to combine different points and different channels in order to create the result that I want for that person that day that is specifically day, you know.

23:21 So it varies. It depends. So explain to me then like, OK, you put the cup on the person. Do you use like, is it like this suction cup? Is it like with a flame or how does it work? And also when you do, when you do it, when you do this process, what's actually happening? Can you guide me step by step like underneath of the skin or why for example, this just simply the suction of the skin, what's actually happening there? It's happening so many things. First I'm I'm using fire. So the fire is an element in TCM that is unblocking energy because the infrared, right?

24:02 Like so the fire has the infrared light, it's nature already. So that's why I use the fire to with the glass cup to kind of create this section. So we Createspace instead of a massage technique that it's like a positive pressure when we put a lot of pressure cupping does completely the opposite, is going to suck the skin up. So it's going to createspace. So whatever is happening there energetically or physically, we're going to kind of give space for movement. So if you have like an inflammation, for example, that you have a lot of body fluid retention that it's a lot of like bad blood around the area.

24:49 First is you're going to give a space for that thing to move. So fresh new blood can come in and wash away or the fluids can actually leave the place and drain. But also we have the the energetically part of the treatment where that specifically point and function is activated by the cup and by the infrared light. And then we can can interfere in the Chinese Meridian. So it's almost like you are pressing buttons and you are combining codes. You know, like I'm gonna combine this point, the stomach 36 with liver tree and with kidney 1, so I can, I can get the result that I want.

25:36 So my, I'm, I'm all the time combining points and functions, but at the same time trying to understand if I'm placing the cup in the right point. Because if I don't place the cup in the right point, nothing's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah. And by placing, so by placing the cup in this point, I can use the TCM location. But in my case, I, I, I'm not using that anymore. I'm using my intuitive guidance to do it because now after 1517 years, I, I have this, this knowledge that I can read the body and I can actually place cups in, in places that is actually that is no location in the book, you know, but with that person makes sense.

26:25 Is, is almost like you have the quantum field. I have my field and the clients going to have their field. And when we come together, we create a new field of energy that is exchanging energy, right? And then it's like her body is talking with my body is talking with the quantum field and we are creating something that is new. And you need to give space to the unknown. So if you if you are a person that is very in the rational, very academic, you don't, you don't make room for this type of energy to flow through you.

27:01 Yeah, you know, it's, it's almost like, OK, I learned everything by the book, but now I'm kind of creating something new that is giving me results. And that's, and this, this is the reason why I keep doing whatever I'm doing. And the clients keep coming back for different reasons because we are creating something that we don't really understand, but it's working. That's amazing. That's the that's the most incredible thing. Very. Exciting. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So basically you're making the very the person's body like you are reawakening their antenna, like just what happened to you really How you sort of like, yeah, you sort of retuned your body like a musical instrument.

27:42 Like I've interviewed many incredible people on this show and so many people have referred to the body as a musical instrument. And we, we sort of tune it with different methods, right? With lifestyle factors, nutrition, sleep, circadian rhythms, like this quantum copying that we're talking about any different movement modalities or, or body therapies. There is like so many ways to actually target the body and actually attune the body back to its true nature. But in reality, we are firstly electromagnetic beings and then secondly, we are physical beings.

28:15 Well, that's my personal belief system anyways, that our physical being is meant to be sort of like a temple, like a like a house to house the soul or to house this electromagnetic force or the chi that what they call in the traditional Chinese medicine, right? This life force energy which is meant to be flowing and emanating out of you and back inside of you. And this sort of like this doughnut shape, right? And basically people's lifestyles or emotions or the way that they think about themselves can obstruct, you know, very literal physical places in the body then and therefore impacting their energetic body as well.

28:56 Because it's, it's important to realize that we also have this energetic body. And when we treat the physical body, I can imagine that as you're saying, you're influencing the energetic body body, but I can imagine that you can also do it the other way around. So by working with the energetic body, you can influence the physical body. Would that be correct? For sure. It's like 100% agree. But it's like when you work with the physical body first, it's almost like you, you are more available to people out there.

29:26 It's easier for people to come to you because usually people that come to me, they come, you know, they come with a problem and it's a very physical problem. And that's OK. I can totally, I get it, you know, But throughout the treatments, they, they cannot ignore everything that is going on, you know, and everything like, Oh my God, during treatment, people shake because their body is like releasing trauma. They start crying for no reason or they start telling me memories from back in like kindergarten, you know, So they start noticing that things are, are, are happening.

30:05 And it's very weird for them because they are very new to, to everything, to TCM, to quantum field, to energy. So and, you know, and you don't want to overwhelm people too, because they're going to run away. Yeah, yeah. So you kind of, you need to walk together, you know, and guide them throughout this awakening. So I, but I, but I truly believe that fascia is the quantum organ. Fascia is the connection between the physical body and the quantum field. That's why it's so important for us to keep fascia healthy, because if your fascia is not healthy, you cannot connect with the quantum field.

30:47 You cannot connect with any type of field. You are disconnected and then it's harder to do life completely disconnected. Well, tell me a little bit then. Tell me a little bit about the fascio system since we're going down this road, because I was going to ask you about this. What kind of things are influencing people's fascio system in a negative way? Well, the latromagnetic field, of course, like EMF is is is one thing. Toxic diet like processed foods, processed sugar, alcohol, negative thoughts, negative relationships and the fascist system.

31:27 I think I see like the is is is the most pure system you know, and it's very connected with nature. So all you need to do is to go outside, get some sunlight, get into the ocean, walk bare food, eat, eat fruits, vegetables. If you want to eat some meat, try to eat organic, organic chicken, organic, whatever you can. You can get organic, but it's a very, it's a very refined system that responds to everything that you do. It's going to respond to everything that you do. So, and of course especially belief systems, right?

32:07 So your fascia is also responding to your belief system. So when your belief system is completely negative, your fascia is very constricted and causing a lot of obstructions and addition. And by causing all those additions, you are completely disconnected from the quantum field and then you are lost. Things are not clear. So I I truly believe that the fascia system is the system that reconnect us with the quantum field is the most important system for for the energy body, you know. And that's incredible.

32:46 Clear to me with the client is like, is this translator is a translator? You know the fascist system is going to translate everything that is going on around you throughout your belief systems. It is very true. It's a literally new go ahead. Sorry. Now I was saying that we have a new, a new body that we, we are learning how to do with it. You know, we don't know yet. And now it's online. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's, that's why it's so incredible to talk with people like you and share this wisdom, you know, with the world because they need to realize that how important it is to take care of this very, very important and under looked system.

33:31 Because people tend to look at the fascia system and they think, oh, it's just connective tissue. It's just this white stuff that wraps around everything in the body. You know, it's just, it's like when you buy like a piece of meat and you see this white stuff on top, which is kind of hard and you cut it. Well, people tend to think of like the fascia in the body like that. You know, it's just for transferring mechanical energy, for allowing you to be able to move efficiently throughout life, where of course that is one of its functions.

33:57 But as you are mentioning, it's so much more than that is it is literally the home of where the energy energetic body is housed. So talk to me a little bit about the connection between meridians and the fascia system. Well, the TCM regions is in the fascia system. How crazy is that? Ice crazy. There is, is, is, you know, and, and it's, it's, it's like, it's funny to think that how TCM knew everything about fascia three, 3000 years ago, right? Because the the now we we have all those meridians. But where those marinas came from came from someone that was meditating.

34:39 That's crazy. He like this person you know, so came from the quantum field. Wow, so basically. Now we are just. I was, I was just going to say that. So basically someone is just meditating there and then they are, you know, maybe afterwards writing down their thoughts in a, on a piece of paper or whatever, or a, or a puppy Rus or whatever. And they are, you know, drawing a body and making these dots based on how they're envisioning it in their mind or the download that they received. It's just wild.

35:08 Yeah, it was. It was a download. You know, it was a download of information and we keep downloading. Probably you are downloading too. Everybody is downloading different types of information because everything that is happening the last three years about fascist system and lymphatic system, it's overwhelming. Like we know so much right now that we didn't know five years ago. You know, it's almost like, OK, now we are all ready to understand the system that was ignored for like 100 years was was ignored for so many years.

35:41 Now we have this system in place and we cannot ignored anymore because of results like so I don't know like I have patients. Yeah. No, go ahead, Go ahead, please. No, I was just saying that I have people coming for control, copying that couldn't make it with IVF agility and after two to three months they are pregnant. How? How can you explain that? You know that's. Crazy. So like I can, I can see, I see miracles in the office. I saw, I saw miracles. I had a patient, if you have like just 5 minutes because this story blew my mind.

36:20 I had I had a patient. She was 47. She was 47. She tried to conceive her entire life and she had one ovary on the right and one fallopian tube on the left. So like zero chance to get pregnant, right? And we were like going through treatment. She was with me for like a year, treating a bunch of other things. She didn't want to get pregnant anymore because she tried a lot. And then she went out one night, she had an encounter and then she like one night stand type of thing. And she was pregnant two weeks after and she went to the doctor.

37:01 They they were like examining that her fallopian tube connected with her right ovary. Like the I don't know how, but her, her fallopian tube connected with the other ovary and she got pregnant. Wow, that's incredible you. Explained that, you know, like the body does things that we don't know that is possible. It's like you don't know what your body can do. You don't know, but if you believe it's possible, it's possible, you know. So again, belief systems playing into the game, you know? So would you say that basically through your practice of what you do, like one of the primary roles is yes, to restore the energetic body and the flow of the energetic body, but as well the bioelectricity.

37:51 So the bioelectrical signaling that is going around the body, right. So the now every organ and system of the body and cells is having the energy that it needs to be able to carry out its processes because a lot of people don't realize that the body actually runs on electricity. Yeah, like 100% is voltage. She is like energy that is gonna restore your voltage. And once your voltage is healthy, everything can happen. But again, like intention, it's also a very important part of the process. Trust is a very important part of the process.

38:31 You need to be aligned with whatever you want and you need to believe that is possible. And, and then with the with the energy field available and free, everything is possible. That's it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not really complex. It's very simple. Yeah, I think like science aims to make things more complicated for us in a way to create this, to create this division. Especially when you read like scientific articles and papers, there is just so much scientific jargon, like words that don't need to be said in a specific way, but they are made in such a way that it's hard for the basic person to understand, right and to translate.

39:11 So all of this important information is sort of gate kept behind the walls by only those who actually understand it. And This is why it's so good for This is why I love social media so much because there are so many intelligent doctors and people and people like yourself out there who are teaching and educating people in simple terms, really complex things that are happening under the hood, like in the body, which are, you know, so insane, but you're actually simplifying for people that you know, this is what you need to do.

39:41 You know, if your fascio system is like this, do like this. You know that you don't need to know about all of the weird stuff that's happening underneath. You just need to nurture your body and give it, give it what it needs to reconnect with nature, right. So one really cool thing that fascinates me as well is how that the lymphatic system also lines up with the meridians. Is that correct? Kind of is that is not everything because the, the TCM meridians, they have a flow like a direction. They, they either go up or down, right.

40:15 But the lymphatic system is always going up from, from the feet up. It's always, you always need to work towards your heart. The the TCM meridians, they go up, they go down some, some meridians like cross in between. So it's a little bit different, but you can combine treatments. That is completely possible. But the flow of the meridians is not the same flow of the fascia system. But I believe like the, the, the lymphatic system, but the lymphatic system has a very important role of like keeping the body clean, right, keeping the body flushing toxins out.

40:59 Because if when the body's toxic, the fascia creates addition inflammation and chi cannot flow in the body. So it is like, it's almost like the, the garbage of the electrical system. You know, you have the electrical system, you have the fascia system, the cheese flowing the way that's supposed to be up or down. But the lymphatic system is taking the garbage out. And when the lymphatic system cannot take the garbage out, the chi cannot flow into the meridians in the in the in the right direction.

41:34 If that specific Meridian is flowing, you know, because for example, 1 Meridian has to flow up and the, and the lymphatic system is completely clogged, that Meridian is going to start to flow down. And if this Meridian is going to start to flow down, everything else is going to be impacted. So the lymphatic system, it's pretty interesting, you know, it's keeping everything flowing in the right direction. Methylene blue, an incredibly powerful substance that has an affinity for the mitochondria. Discovered in 1876, at first as a textile dye, it didn't take long before it was noticed for its unusual biological effects.

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42:46 The energy that we need to power all our cellular processes come from electrons. So it only makes sense. The more we take care of our mitochondria and our energy production, the more energy we have for our overall health, well-being and vitality. If you wish to explore the methylene blue that I use, head over to maragimedicinal.com/mobility Fitness. And use the promo code mobility fitness at checkout for 15% of your entire order. I didn't know that about the meridians. That they. Yeah, I didn't know that about the meridians that they flow.

43:14 Yeah. That they flow in different directions. I just thought that it all sorts of flows in some logical manner. But it sounds like it's quite complex, to be honest. Like it's a little bit like over my over my head. Yeah. But what actually, I think what I meant was what when I said about the lymphatic system being so similar to the Meridian system, maybe I meant the lymph nodes. So the location of the lymph nodes, would you say that they align with the Meridian? So for example, like if you think where all the major lymph nodes are in the body like neck, armpits, groin, knees.

43:47 We have the lung master point, yes. Yes, we do have some important master points located close the lymphatic nodes. For example, in the chest area you have the lung master point close to all these lymphatic nodes. Around the armpit area. You have some gallbladder points here close to the chest area. You have a very important point in the duct of like that is on top of the stomach area. We have like a master point over there as well for the large intestines. So and it is a point that I using all my treatments because this huge lymphatic duct is is is the one in charge of the neck area, the brain.

44:36 So we need to keep all of that very, very clean. So this master point can actually so yes, this this this is the answer. So, so basically like is there any other ways that you can treat the body? Like do you treat the body in any other kind of ways that I'm just looking for now? Do you have some self help tools and strategies that we can give the audience? You know, if they can do something at home to help themselves? Like any hints and tips to help their fascial system, their lymphatic system, their chi, their life force?

45:13 You know, all of this, as we talked about, is sort of intertwined, right? It's sort of like all working together. So I can imagine that if you have some tips that are helping one, it's going to also impact the other systems of the body as well. Yeah, that is like very simple things that you can do at home. You can walk around nature. You get the infrared light from the from the trees, from the from like nature, from the sun. If you can walk bare food, you are like grounding. This is very well known.

45:44 You can stretch your fascia, you can keep the fascia hydrated. So hydration, it's super important. Mineral salt, electrolytes is not optional anymore. We need to have a good quality water. So every day I usually wake up in the morning, I have my mineral salts and I have electrolytes so I can keep my I feel flowing better because when the fascia is dehydrated, things doesn't flow right. So body, body movement first thing in the morning that it all, it all depends if you are a man or a woman because it's kind of different.

46:23 They are completely different systems. If you are a woman, it depends if you are menstruating or not. Your flow is going to change by your age and by the set of hormones that are functioning in your body. I usually treat women 35 plus. So we can kind of, we take it easy in the morning. You wake up, you do like some hydration, you move your body, you stretch your fascia, you make sure you get some fruits and vegetables. I know that protein now is super trendy. A lot of people are talking about a huge amount of protein.

47:06 I I, I don't really agree. I think electrical body, yeah, it's going to, it's going to need some protein. But for women specifically, we need more like mineral salt. So like a fruits and vegetables is going to be a better option in the morning. It it all depends of your lifestyle but we all agree about like movement and nature and a clean diet like organic. If if possible stay away from processed sugar, processed foods. I don't do alcohol for over 10 years now. I don't really drink. So I think especially for women, alcoholic drinks, it's it's very, very toxic as we age.

47:54 And it can interferes with perimenopause, with menopause, with the fascia system. You don't want your fascia dehydrated. If your fascia is dehydrated, your voltage is gonna be low voltage. And low voltage means disease. And yeah, you can get the vibrational plate. You know, the vibrational plate's gonna help you a lot. You can get some cups. So you can, you can cup yourself and create this space so so energy can flow into your body. You can help with the lymphatic system, flushing the lymphatic system.

48:31 That is a lot that you can do, but you have to do it right. You cannot run away from diet, movement, nature and clean diet. I think those are the pillars for the good, healthy life. I 100% agree with you, yes. So what you're saying is like a biological necessity to do all of those things. It's not like just something nice to do. It's just that especially at a certain point in in life, if you reach 30 and over, you really, really need to start paying attention to those things. I can tell you that for myself, because I'm almost 30 this year.

49:07 And when I was 20, obviously I didn't feel anything. Obviously, the first ten years of my life, I'm a kid, like growing up, you know, And so like, yeah, once I was like 20 after 252728I start to really notice like when I do things out of, of alignment, I really feel it in my body now. And so I just really realized that how I need to pay even more attention. Yeah, to all of the little details because I noticed that I'm also becoming more sensitive to the good kind of things as well. So anything that makes me feel good, I'm more sensitive to it.

49:40 So I'm more, I feel more in tune to the negative things and also the positive things as well. So it's like, it's like a, you know, like a pros and cons, but at the same time, you know, it's a, it's a gift, you know, to be able to be aware about the things that are throwing you off track and to be able to be aware of what you just mentioned, all of the things that you need to be doing. Because that is what is your body is designed to live in alignment with nature and to eat real foods and to sleep, you know, and to living the cycles and the rhythms of the sun and the seasons.

50:11 But I would like for you to explain a little bit about the protein aspect because I've also come to this conclusion as well myself about the protein is that you don't actually need that much protein. Used to be this kind of person who believed that you needed a ton of protein to build muscle and have performance and all this kind of stuff. But over the years and through my experience and self experimentation and also working with clients, I've actually realized that you don't need that much protein in order to build muscle, lose body fat.

50:40 And so tell me a little bit why eating too much protein, especially from maybe a traditional Chinese medicine perspective. Why is that not a problem? Well, because this is a thing like you, like throughout my years of practice, I also tried to eat a lot of protein and didn't work for me. I was like actually getting a lot of inflammation from it. And like, just like I was really feeling like really heavy, the flow of energy was not flowing. The same was kind of interfering in my work, in my practice.

51:15 I was not able to read the field so easy anymore because when I started to do the quantum cupping, I was doing like a detox protocol and I was very clean, Very, very, very clean. So the energy was flowing easy throughout my body. And then, you know, I turned like 4546. I was like, OK, better eat more protein, lift some weights, right? Like everybody's doing now. Yes, it didn't work for me. It didn't work at all. Was was completely the opposite. I was getting like very, very sick and inflamed and talking with my patients, like I had a lot of women look like coming as a client that were doing the the protein shakes was was doing all the protein game and lifting weights and for them was not really budging anymore, you know.

52:06 So I had again to kind of unplug from the matrix because sometimes I need to unplug from the matrix and understand, OK, what is happening inside And in my practice, because this is all I know. I don't know anything else out outside of here. And I just realized that protein it's kind of a game that is not serving a good amount of people. And but I truly believe that the protein is is is a very is very heavy. It's very heavy. And if you if you have this, this and energetic body that needs to flow and has a voltage and the voltage needs to be high, means that the flow of energy has to be more free and less dense.

52:52 So we actually need the less dense body in order to function better in the world. And then I move all my practice from lifting weights to function. Function act like exercise. I'm going to lift only the the weight of my body and I'm going to eat what I feel. I feel like eating, of course, clean, but I wake up in the morning and I feel like eating fruits. If I'm going to go by the book, I'm totally wrong because it's too much sugar, glucose, glucose. Going to do this and that blah blah. Blah. And then I go crazy, you know?

53:27 But again, you need to make things simple. It's simple. I wake up, I'm in tune with my body. I feel like eating fruits and this is what I'm going to do. You know, so you need to believe more in, in, in, in your body and what you feel unless, unless you know in everybody else, like your body cannot lie to you. Your body is going to actually guide you. But in order to guide you, you need to be in alignment. You like, you need to be healthy, yes. And like, if you are inflamed, you, you're going to wake up and feel like eating chocolate cake, you know, And that's not good for you, so.

54:07 Yeah, No, this is everything. I really resonate with everything that you said there because I also noticed that when I was overdoing the protein, like eating more than 200 grams of protein per day, I would notice that I would also feel more inflamed. My joints were more stiff. In fact, when I did the car, Yeah, when I did the car, when I did the carnivore diet and I wasn't consuming any fruits or vegetables. I was just consuming it, mainly meats and eggs. And that was basically it. And butter, it's very, very high protein and not enough fat in contrast to the protein.

54:41 So in a way, it's very hard for the body to get into ketosis, which is a very healing state for the body to be in. But a ketogenic diet is not a carnivore diet. And that's something that a lot of people get confused about. That very high protein actually makes you produce more glucose. You know, we go into gluconeogenesis because your body is trying to all the time find that sugar from somewhere because there are some tissues in the body, especially if you are very physically active individual, if you lift weights or if you do sprinting, for example, you use the glucose in the muscle, you deplete that.

55:15 So where does the body have to find it has to regenerate it through gluconeogenesis. So it has to basically take the protein, break it down and make it into sugar. And that is a very stressful state for the body to be in. It's a stress metabolism really. It's sort of like an emergency metabolism in until you actually are meant to find carbohydrates in your environment, like, you know, some kind of fruits or honey or whatever. But a lot, a lot of times, a lot of people stay stuck in this lane, but we're constantly eating just a carnivore diet.

55:45 Of course, if you have some severe symptoms and and condition where you feel like carnivore diet has helped you, then definitely, you know, by all means continue doing that. But I'm just saying for people who do not necessarily have some kind of condition and our symptoms, they should probably look into varying their diet a little bit, eating more seasonal and local, embracing what nature is providing you. You know, there is a reason why fruits and vegetables are available in nature. And they are meant to give you the codes and the information about the season and also the intensity of light.

56:18 And your biology is working way better with that instead of, you know, just overdoing the protein. And yes, the body does need protein, but it just doesn't need as much as we think it needs needs based on the, the current science and understanding. Well, I, I feel like we went to often a little bit of a tangent there about the on the nutrition side of things, but. It's very important. Yes, absolutely, because it ties into the fascia system as you talked about. And I, I personally noticed that when I consume more hydrating fruits like watermelon, melons and anything that has more water in it, I generally feel that my tissues feel healthier.

56:54 And that is because the water in those fruits and vegetable is actually in the exclusion zone state, which is this gel like water, which is the most biocompatible with your fascio system, obviously, because that is surrounded by exclusion zone water and ever all the water in your body is pretty much exclusion zone water unless it's destructured due to, you know, bad lifestyle habits or environmental factors. But is there something that we didn't talk about today that you would like to discuss before we end the show?

57:25 No, you were, you were talking about seasons, right? And like TCM, it's very into seasons. Like the way that we live in the summer is not the same way that we live in the in the fall or winter or spring. So the body also have a season that's gonna detox easier and it's usually between summer, spring and summer. Summer is usually when TCM we use the body to detox because the body it's already detoxing by nature. So we increase detoxification around the summer and the spring and fall. In winter is usually when we eat actually meat because that.

58:08 Makes sense? There is a season, you know, there is a season for the meat eating for like to, for the dense, the dense foods. And there is a season for more fruits, veg, because like you said, I'm very into the watermelon now I'm eating like 1-2 other melons a day. And it's funny because my body is actually craving because we are in the summer and completely makes sense. So things are not complex and we cannot make things too much complex because people is going to run from it. They don't understand, they don't comprehend.

58:42 They're going to think that is too difficult and they don't want to do it. You know, I, I, I try to, I, I try to get as much people as I can so I can have like a bigger impact. And when you explain things in simple terms and you don't overcomplicate, it's easier for people to oh, yeah, it kind of makes sense. If a, if a client comes to me now and and say, like, I want to lose weight, I was like, well, it's very warm outside. Let's let's keep the, the meals like lighter. Yeah, you know, let's eat lighter greens, fruits, vegetables.

59:21 Let's move the body, walk around nature, go to the beach, go inside the ocean like it's like to, to keep the body healthier. It's simple. It's not complicated. It's simple, you know, and and this is how I work and and it's working. Absolutely. I mean clearly. And I tell you one, it's simple. You know. I'll tell you one crazy story. Like when I was also doing this carnivore diet, I was doing it in the summertime and I honestly felt like it was the worst decision I ever made because I. I I didn't, I didn't tan at all that summer and I normally tan extremely well because I always build my solar colors by being outside in the sun every single day, 365 days a year.

1:00:13 But for some reason that summer I didn't tan. So my melanin didn't come to the surface and I was burning extremely easily, which actually was telling me maybe that my body was not getting information that from the food that hey, like this is summertime, you know, you need to be changing your process. Or it could have been the fact that my body was not hydrated on a cellular level and it could not actually work as it was supposed to. Because you know how if you eat only meat and you basically pee a lot, right?

1:00:43 It's very diuretic diet. Anything that you drink because you don't have carbohydrates. Carbohydrates always hold on to water inside of the body. They draw water. So when insulin spikes, you hold on to more water inside of the body. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, especially when you want to find optimal hydration. Because if you're eating a ketogenic or a carnivore diet for a long period of time, why do you think they tell those people to put so much electrolytes and salt? Because that is the only way to hold on to water inside of the body, right?

1:01:15 Because you are not raising insulin high enough in order to retain the water. Anyway, these are just some of my own hypothesis that I, I come, I came to from my own self experimentation. But anyway, I learned, I learned that balanced approach, embracing the seasons, you know, still eating protein, but going with the seasonality, you know, and embracing nature wherever you are locally and eating as clean and organic as possible is a massive, you know, benefit to your overall health and well-being, your energy levels, your fascial system, your lymphatic system.

1:01:48 I absolutely love this discussion today, Mila. Like, is there any last words of wisdom that you'd like like to leave the audience with? Well, just keep your fascia healthy, your lymphatic system unclogged, move your body drinks, drink a lot of water, have a clean diet and always going to get better. That's it. Nice. You don't need to overthink over worry and or hurt your spleen. Yeah. And also like, I hope that people understood from this awesome discussion that frequency and energy and basically the quantum field is impacting our very physical body.

1:02:23 So every single thought, behavior and emotion is literally impacting your fascio system, which is going to impact your energetic system, which is going to impact your voltage, which is basically your cellular electricity or, or charge. And if your charge is not there, that's where this disease begins to manifest itself, right? We know that when we have a loss of voltage and charge, that's when disease begins to manifest. So where can people connect with you, find you, work with you if they wish to do so?

1:02:52 Well, we have our clinic here in San Diego, Cupping for Life Holistic Health Center. We are in Pacific Beach, San Diego. We have our account at Instagram. We have Cupping for Life and we have the Quantum Cupping is also there. And yeah, that's, that's pretty much it. I'm completely open for discussion. If you want to drop a message, we're going to talk. And just I would say like last words like to pay attention about your feelings because your feelings has a lot to do with your voltage. So when we are feeling lighter positive, that means that our voltage is high.

1:03:35 And when we are feeling like we are like a little sad, frustrated, it means that our voltage, it's a little low and kind of interferes in everything that you do in life. So the like a easy thing to understand is our feelings like high, like high positive feelings is going to give you a direction where your voltage is and is our responsibility to keep our voltage high and you can make everything that you want. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. Be the, be the creator. Really really fun to talk with you.

1:04:13 Absolutely be the. Creator and. Go go ahead, say it. No, no, that's it. I said everything already. Awesome. Yeah, well, if you have any new revelations or anything like that about the human body, any new discoveries, I would love to have you on the show again to talk about that in the future. And until next time, thank you so much you guys enjoy the topics and guests I bring on the show. I would really appreciate it if you left me a five star review on Spotify and also subscribe to Fitness Wisdom Podcast on YouTube as well.

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