Telekinesis & Health Explained | Quantum Physics, Mind Over Matter, Egely Wheel, Human Biofield, Consciousness & Energy Healing | Dr. George Egely

0:04 This is the Fitness Wisdom podcast.

0:09 Today we're going to be exploring the world of psychokinesis and telekinesis. And you guys who are regular listeners of the show, you're probably thinking why on earth are we going to be learning about moving objects with our mind? And how has that got anything to do with health and how is it related to health? Well, today we're going to be learning about all of that, and please stay tuned so you can find out why. And we have Abby. I'm a telekinesis teacher and a life and personal awakening coach and I also do quantum energy healing for people.

0:37 Amazing. And then we also have Christian. I'm the brand manager of the Egliville. My title is shorter than Abbys.

0:45 And in just for people who don't know what the egli wheel is, just a brief description of what it's about. To put it shortly, it's a vitality meter. That's, that's the best way I can. I guess later on we're going to talk more about it, but it's it's enough for the start. Nice. Nice. I love it. OK, so I guess we'll start off with a question for Abby. This is going to be a very foundational question so I can learn and so the audience can learn. What is psychokinesis or telekinesis? Is it the same thing or because I kind of hear it interchangeably?

1:18 Yeah, so this is a very interesting question. And so let me answer. What is telekinesis? Psychokinesis and there are siability. So there are a lot of different ways people interpret it. Telekinesis is telepathically, you can say telepathically creating or moving an object. So psychokinesis or telekinesis is using your body's electromagnetic power and abilities to influence any physical object or thought or matter basically in the physical world. So that's what telekinesis is that you use the brain power, you use your mind power, you do your soul.

1:50 When you align your soul, mind, body, and consciousness with the consciousness, eternal consciousness, that's where you have connection with everything. And that's where once you have that connection with the eternal consciousness, I say now you're able to, you're connected with every atom and every electron in this world. So that's how you're able to impact and interact with physical objects in the world, by your power of your mind and your thoughts. Wow, that was truly incredible. Sorry, my microphone went off there for a second.

2:22 Yeah, that was that was really, really powerful. And so that makes me think a little bit like quantum entanglement, right. So everything is in communication with each other when you tune into the right frequency. Is that what you're saying? Yes, it's you. You must have heard about the concept of non duality. So the way every every telekinesis practitioner does it in a different way. I have my own way which I developed over decades and working and and experimenting and researching and meditating.

2:49 I've developed my way, I like to work and I always believe in alignment. For me, telekinesis is all about alignment. It's our alignment with myself. Like I said, alignment of the mind, body, soul with the eternal consciousness. And also it is the alignment of how do you work. It has to make you a better person. Like when I started doing telekinesis, you know, it, it was, it just came to me that let me try doing that. But what I saw online was all a lot of force, a lot of power, a lot of anger, a lot of, you know, body power being created and all of that.

3:22 And somehow that was something inside me told me that's not what I have to do. So when I started doing telekinesis, for me, it was all about alignment. It's also all about peace. It was all about getting that state of coherence within myself, with everybody cell of mine. Like, you know, the 37 trillion cells in our body, how do you align them with your mind, with your soul? Once you start doing that automatically, you see that they are, you become a come out, a better person. When you do it, your surroundings become better.

3:51 Your family, the way you work with them, you live with them, become better. You become a better human being at the end of the day. That's why I do telekinesis and all my students do. So I don't do magic. If people come to me and say, OK, can you teach telekinesis, I say, yes, I do. But there's an application process. So I only go through this because it's a very, very, very powerful tool and very powerful ability and it has to be used in the right way. And like they say, with great abilities come great responsibilities.

4:21 We have to use it to make this world a better place for everybody here. So understanding of that is very important. It's not magic. So if somebody says can you teach me? I want to show it with been by friends. That is a party trick. I'm like I'm not the person for you. I don't do magic. I don't do it for that purpose. If somebody. So for me, it's for people, my students, most of the students across the world, from UK to Germany to Australia, to like US everywhere they are, they're seekers. They want to go deeper.

4:47 They want to understand the consciousness, they want to understand their role in this, on this planet earth that they're here, they want to understand why they're here. How can they make their life better? How can they make every human being's life better when they're living around with? So that's what telekinesis does for me. And I feel alignment is very important. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And on this show, actually, we talk a lot about coherence. Heart, heart, brain, coherence, yes, you know, and quantum health, how that literally relates to your influencing your biochemistry.

5:18 Because biophysics, the physics of the universe that govern the stars, is the same physics which governs the human body as well. But most people don't actually realize that. And I've talked about that extensively on my show, and that's literally the study of biophysics, which is absolutely fascinating. And once you get into that work, all of the things that you are just talking about right now is not woo woo anymore. Because a lot of people think that this stuff is like, no, it's not possible that you can move objects with your mind.

5:46 Or, you know, how can you possibly get benefits from something that you cannot see with your naked eye? For example, one of those things is infrared light from the sun. You know, all red light therapy panels today out there are promoted for so many incredible benefits for the human body and the mitochondria. Well, infrared light, it's invisible to the naked eye. But then again, it has a very physical impact on our biology. And the same thing what you are talking about right now, you are talking about some kind of life force energy which is within our body.

6:16 Maybe it's illuminating our vessel, I don't know. And this is amplifying. Would you say this is amplifying our aura? And as our aura becomes stronger, is aura and electromagnetic body synonymous? I would say your aura is they're different when you go with the electromagnetic resonance of energy of a body, there are different layers that are there. So our, our magnetic looks like a bubble you are in right. And they like, if you imagine Earth, you've got stratosphere, we got, you know, all different layers of of in the, in the, in the air, right.

6:49 So the the aura is like that, a human energy magnetic error aura is like that The energy force has got levels. So the first level, second level, third level, fourth level like that. So aura is the one that is the closest to you, I would say. And then you keep going further and there are different kinds of aura. There's five or seven I think, or determinations of that. Now the key here is what you mentioned the one of the most important things yes, telekinesis. The reason I learned telekinesis and I got into telekinesis is because I, I know like I knew for past 3-4 decades that I'm here to heal people.

7:22 I'm here to give something better to people. And I knew that I have that ability in me. But it took me 3 decades, 2 to 3 decades to, to have the, the finesse and the, the right process and the procedure that it doesn't harm anybody when I do it, it doesn't harm me. It doesn't harm the other person. It's beneficial for everybody. So that coherence has to be, that alignment has to be the systems had to be fine-tuned so that I can make it and do it with the maximum impact. So when I do quantum energy healing, and that's what we were talking about and I'm so happy that you, you go in deep in your broadcast with that.

7:55 So I do quantum energy healing all across the world. I've been able to get to a place where I use mostly I just use Zoom call and that's a 30 to 35 minutes, 40 minutes Zoom call and that's all that's needed. And now I've got it in a way that I know how I can. I can do it online also, wherever people are in the world. I don't charge for it. I do it free of cost because I feel that's the ability given to me and the purpose given to me by the consciousness. So people go on my website, itsbedivinehuman.com, and they can get on a wait list and as and when I get time, I get people on there.

8:30 We've had some amazing results with quantum energy healing and it it works. Somebody who had a migraine for around 45 years, 4045 years, tried all medical procedures, all, all exhausted everything which was there and when she used to get it, she, she was in bed for 2-3 days one session and just gone. Another guy had some testicular pain for 30 years. He's tried everything again, you know, and he was suffering from it every day. His life, quality of life was suffering. And he had one session and he's completely healed.

9:10 And these people have given testimonies. Somebody I was working with recently, I'm working right now also, He had an accident, so a vehicle hit him and his bone in under from the his bone in the leg. Both the bones got broken like both of them crushed on. He hadn't had a surgery and we did quantum energy healing for him and he went back to the doctor and in a month's time the doctor said this is miraculous healing. I can already see the callus being formed and he's walking now. So that's what's happening.

9:40 There's another lady 82 year old that's that was having sores on her feet and you know she used to have the blood used to come out and she was she was suffering a lot 1 session and she's healed now and she doesn't have and she was sending me the photograph how everything is is perfectly fine for her now and all of this happened not because of me. It happens because the quantum laws are very strong. All I'm trying to do is send that energy and that message to those cells that need to be reminded.

10:06 That's all it is, the toxins all around her body, all around her mind, everywhere, right? As a human being, when we go, we experience so much and all of those things affect the way we think, the way we speak, the way we perform our energy. But we need to cleanse it sometimes. Like we can cleanse, do a body cleanse, but how do we do the cell cleanse? Go to the cellular level, the electron level, where they understand, they remember. This is my best optimal performance. This is how I have to be. And I'm being reminded to go back to my best possible state at the fastest possible time because that's what my, my purpose in life is.

10:41 And that's what happens is then the cells come together and the energy goes and it works across the world. How it works. I mean, the consciousness knows how it works, but there's a process which is there. It can and it works magically for people. Now, the important thing here is the important thing here is that it has to work for the good of the person who it is who's who's there and the community and the society and the world and the humanity in, in, in totality. That is very important. The Agile wheel is a fascinating device.

11:10 The inventor Doctor George Agile described as a vitality meter, essentially a tool designed to make the invisible visible. I believe it fundamental response to the body's magnetic field or what we might describe as bio field or our overall biophysical state. The idea is the same fundamental forces and patterns that govern the universe are also expressed within us, influencing our health and physiological state, and that we in turn project those qualities outward into the field around us. You can think of it as kind of a toroidal field or Taurus, with the energy flowing through and around the system.

11:44 What makes the AGLA Wheel so intriguing is that it gives us a tangible, interactive way to explore these otherwise invisible aspects of our self. So as our internal state changes, I believe that can be reflected in the speed, strength and control of the wheel. Essentially, the Egelia wheel gives us a tangible way to explore and interact with our bodies vitality. You'll be able to find the link in the description below, as well as in the pinned comments alongside with the discount code. I love that.

12:10 I love that so much. So do you want to maybe tell me if you know, if you're aware? You mentioned quantum laws that really fascinated me. I want to understand this process a bit deeper. Let's say someone comes to you. What are you actually doing? Describe to me in extreme detail in your mind what what's going on like what are you doing with the energy? And if you can make the energy that you're talking about more tangible through words, how would that be like for someone who has no clue about these things?

12:42 You know, how can they understand this work that you're doing with other people and you are all of a sudden achieving these miraculous healings that you are talking about? So I always say the modern Health Science is amazing. It has this amazing space and it is very, very, very essential. However, once people have tried everything and they feel that OK, this is not working, all of that and they want to try something different, that's where they will come into the energy healing world. A very important word when we talk about energy healing, we talk about telekinesis, psychokinesis, all of these siabilities is to understand the concept of non duality.

13:19 It's very powerful, but it takes time to understand and it's not just understand, it's about believing it to the core. It's about believing it to the core that every cell of your, the body knows, understands and, and, and is 110%. If I say the sun is going to rise tomorrow, you believe that sun is going to rise tomorrow. There's no two ways about it. The sun is not going to rise tomorrow. So non duality has to go to that level of understanding and belief that me, there is no different. You and me are connected.

13:48 Me and Christiana corrected me and this ugly wheel here right now is connected. Every cell of this, it can be physical living, non living is connected to us and that is the power of non duality. So what happens is, and I was we were just talking about that I got into telekinesis with that because again, telekinesis is working with energy impacting a physical object or interacting with the physical object. That is a way away from me, right, 5 meter, 20 meters. I've done till 2530 meters just with my mind.

14:17 I'm able to move their videos on my Instagram channel. That's telekinesis dot energy work. People can go and see my journey from day one to today and I recorded because everybody can do it. I want everybody to do it and ugly wheel is one of the tools that has helped me a lot in increasing my power and Christian can talk about it more. So let's talk about what I do is basically I settled into the fact of there is non due duality. And once I embrace that non duality, I know that I can talk. I get this energy like a huge white waterfall.

14:50 So I get a huge like waterfall. When I I get into that phase and I connect with non duality, I have this huge white waterfall in my energy. I can feel coming through and I can feel the energy from the earth coming up and all of this comes and I can feel that that ball, a huge ball of energy that is there which is in my hands. And now that is what I send to them so that each and every cell, so that there's those cell remember their, their active 100% performance. And that's what happens. I'm just reminding them and the cosmic energy, cosmic intelligence is at work at that time.

15:24 It's not me, I'm not doing anything. I'm just a medium there. It's the cosmic intelligence that goes and connects with every electron that is there. And I'm able to to send that message only because of non duality. I know that cell is me and I'm I am you. Just the way we all are here. We are all connected. We are all connected at at certain level, at certain place. It's like the ocean. You go to the ocean and you sit out by the Oceanside. The ocean is the ocean. We all we are just waves. You come first, I come second, Christian comes third, John comes forward, Susie comes next.

15:57 Doesn't matter. We just waves on the surface. But the ocean, that is the consciousness. That's how we are connected. We come and we go. We come. We live our lives as a human being and then we go back into the consciousness as a wave. So you basically talked about the concept that energy is neither created or destroyed. It exists everywhere all the time. It's just in different forms, whether that is as human beings, you know, we're limited very much to our five senses. Some people like, like yourself who have really practiced, you could have access to your sixth sense or your ability to utilize and yeah, use to your advantage.

16:36 The quantum realm or collective consciousness pretty much is what you know as what people refer it to as, where it's the consciousness of all the people. And pretty much we're all connected. And so many times on the planet when sad things occur, you notice that there is also this collective sadness sometimes on the planet or the opposite can be true. If something very happy or good like positive happens, then a lot of people are in a good mood, right? And I feel like the forces who are in power of the on the planets, they're trying to suppress a lot of this information and a lot of this energy.

17:11 You know that you know this, right? Like they're doing this to our food, to our skies, to our waters, to our minds, to our eyes. We are being fed with a lot of crap from every single direction and I believe it's to shut down this incredible 6th sense ability that you are talking about. So there are, there are some more senses other than 5 senses. Most human beings, we live in the five senses and we say okay, this is what our life is. We are born here and we come and we go with these five senses.

17:38 But there are the 6th sense, 7 cents, 8 cents, $0.09 the different senses, there's a sense of being there extrasensory powers which are there. There's, you know, the ability to hear things that you can't hear, the ability to see things that you can't see, the ability to feel things that you can't feel. So there are all of these other extra abilities which a human being can, can expand into. And the moment you expand into it, the world is so beautiful. The, the, the essence of being or as a human being on this planet is magical.

18:07 It's so beautiful, it's blissful. That's the power of bliss. I think for me is when I do telekinesis and I tell people it's not this, the moving of the object, am I happy? Yes, I'm happy. When I can put it under the glass cover and I can still move in a side wheel or I am 2530 feet from a side wheel and I'm able to move it. I am able to change the direction at my will. Am I happy? Yes, I'm happy. What is more important I tell every student of mine is the the state of consciousness you are in at that time.

18:35 That is pure bliss. The same happens with the ugly wheel. When you're connecting with the ugly wheel and you're seeing the wheel move around, it's not about how fast it is moving, because if you're chasing, then you're chasing. If you're just after moving it the fastest possible, you did it. OK, I'm done. But you never go fast. It is for me it is. It doesn't matter until it What's important is what's happening at that time in your in your senses, in your body, in your mind. When your ugly wheel is moving, that is more important if it goes faster, yes, you know your energy field is is expanding and is able to interact with with the with the determination you have or the intention you have.

19:14 But important is what's happening in your body. You have to maintain that and the objects help. Now objects help like any if you if sometimes in meditation also, you will find people using a candle, right? Some people use sounds Tibetan bowls, right. Some people use ugly wheel, just like here, I use ugly wheel, I use Tibetan bolts. I use so many things. And what happens is that it just helps as as human beings, it helps us to it gives us a pathway. Now it becomes that initially it is very it makes our lives easier when we're going and connecting in the consciousness because we have an object to get everything around us that's happening and focuses on to one thing.

19:58 And that path. When you start walking, your focus becomes so singular that now your your door becomes. Easy and it helps you, but after practice, you don't need any tools. After a certain time, you don't need any tools. Once you have that ability to do it, it takes 110th of a second. I close my eyes and I'm there. That's that's all. It takes 110th of a second to get and connect to that level of consciousness. And that's what we have to strive for. Also, from the egalvius perspective, in my opinion, it's very important what Abby just said about being in that moment.

20:31 The important fact, it's not that how fast is it spins, but the the matter, you know, the, the fact itself, it spins and you're focusing on it. You know, you're just being yourself basically. That's why it's made. So without too much technical background reasons, let me give a quote from the inventor of the ugly wheel, Doctor George Ugly. He said that the ugly wheel is probably the most serious toy or the most playful serious instrument you ever encounters. So it's, it's putting in a place, you know, earlier you asked and I wasn't talking too much about the Aglivia, but I guess that's what the Aglivia can offers.

21:11 You know, it's, it's gives feedback to you. It's gives something, you know, you've just putting your hands there and there is a lot of things that can affect the measurement itself, you know, being anything. It's a very, very sorry, I'm looking for a sensitive. Thank you very much for your help. So it's a very, very sensitive device, but still it's measures that you playing with it and that's that's the best of how I can put it on the table without giving too much background information. Of course, there was a bunch of experiences researchers, Doctor George I got work 10 years on it to make the device, went through a bunch of prototypes X pardon experiences with students in different countries.

21:58 So there was a world history behind it. But Abby just catched it really well. It seems he using the ugly wheel from from a long time now because he really catching the point of it just to give an answer to the earlier question. No, this was fantastic. Both of you like fantastic breakdown and thank you for also bringing to awareness about the ugly wheel as well, like you know, what it's actually used for. I think that's very, very important. I think the intention he teaches us, as I've been mentioned, to get into the right state of mind.

22:28 I love this so much because it's very true, right? There are certain things that you do in life which gets you in this flow state. For example, for me, there are many different forms of exercise because that is my field of expertise as well, beyond podcasting, that get me into this flow state, which gets me into a state of mind where I'm not thinking about anything else and I'm just doing that thing and I'm loving it. And especially if the exercise is not too hard and I'm feeling like I'm in the flow a lot of times.

22:55 I don't know, maybe if you guys checked or not. On my page, I share about rope flow, which is like flowing with the rope. You don't jump through the rope, you move, make the rope move around your body. And this is like insane because there is some science behind it as well that when you cross your arms in this Figure 8 manner in front of your body, it synchronizes left and right hemispheres of the brain. And the rope, rope flow is based on that. It's based on the Infinity pattern on this Figure 8 pattern.

23:24 And it makes your spine also move in this Figure 8 manner. Think about a lizard that moves on the ground. It moves like this, right? But we are doing the same thing but standing upright. So we are like standing upright lizards as human beings. So yeah. But one very important question actually I wanted to ask Abby, before we move into like the Egelia wheel stuff a bit deeper is what do you think causes ill health in people? So for example, you know, there is a many things that we can say that causes ill health, but at the roots, what do you think causes ill health?

24:00 So in the human body, there are 37 trillion cells or heartbeats 100,000 times a day, and we take about 20,000 breaths in a day. There is so much going on. There's a lot going on. And we take efforts to take care of our body, right? Our human body. But what happens is that we don't take care of our internal self, our mind, our, our, our OK, We say, OK, who am I? If I say who am I? I'm asking a question, who am I? I am Abby. But I'm, I'm somebody's answering that question. That is that I'm identifying with myself, saying I'm Abby.

24:33 But there is a bigger consciousness that is there inside me. There's a bigger consciousness inside me which is bigger than just who am I, Abby or I'm Andrea or I'm, I'm Susie or I'm, you know, Joseph, doesn't matter. There's a consciousness inside you. You're not your mind, your mind, your heart, your body is part of your, your soul that is there who you are truly. Now what happens is people forget the soul, people forget the mind, people forget the body sometimes people forget the heart. And like you said, you know, there are things that are bad things happening in the world and all of that.

25:04 I also believe with the more intensity the light is, the more light grows, the more light comes in this world and this planet through people, the brighter the light, the darker the shadows. So we have to understand that it is they go hand in hand. But what is important is that when we work so hard, so hard and so put in so much to bring this light, this beautiful, brilliant light, we have to know how to save it. We have to know how to protect it. There should be an armor. One has to know and we have to know it as a human species.

25:38 We have to know as people who believe in the light work, good work of the everybody in the planet and the consciousness. We have to know it as individuals for ourselves. We have to know how to protect our energy that we work so hard on bringing it up and, and, and expanding it. We have to know how to build that armor. That armor is very important so that the dark does not enter in and take away and and you know, just suck everything out because that's what it's proportional. The brighter you go, the darker the shadows.

26:08 So it has to be contained. That's very important. The more you go so that you're not deflating like a balloon, you're not deflating the out day after day. You're just expanding. You bring your light, you expand, you put your armor there now you expand your light here, put the armor here now. So it has to keep expanding. That's what you got to do. That's very important. Now why, why does why does this happen is because of the imbalances. That is true. Like you mentioned, the quality of life that we have right now is a lot dependent on the food we eat, a lot dependent on the, on the sounds we hear, a lot dependent on what we watch in television, a lot dependent on who we spend time around with.

26:44 Who? Who do we, we, you know, listen to our friends, Who, which community do we listen to? My house doesn't have a television for past 20 years. I don't use a microwave for past 15 years. We don't have it in our house. We don't get sugar in our house. There's no sugar in our house. Small things that we can do. There's produce. We buy food and we buy fruits and vegetables. We put it in. My wife always puts it in, in the soak of vinegar and baking soda. Yeah, clean up the pesticides as much as you can, right.

27:13 What can we do? There's so many things in we don't know, but they're happening to our body because of the the industrialization that has happened right? There is then and it is not going to stop. It is going to grow only it is going to grow as much as I mean it is. It is going at a fast pace. What can we do at our our existence level, What can we do is the key in Toronto. I mean, I don't know if you guys know, we get four months of summer, right from October, November, then again, it's winter until April and May, May is what we get.

27:42 So May, June, July and August, there are four months we get. So every year we try to, you know, grow our own vegetables and and organic garden, which we can from heirloom seeds, not GMO seeds. So we order that and we do it and inspiring other friends and neighbors and everybody to grow whatever you can grow. Not just because Oh my God, you had a bumper crop and you're going to, you don't have to buy vegetables for the next 6 months. No, it's for the joy of knowing how it feels to put a seed in and put water on it every day and see that two leaves come up.

28:12 And then from those two leaves, the birds come up. And then the plant from a juvenile stage to becomes to a big one to give you those fruits and you pluck them and then you taste them. It's the joy of the process that's doing, that's the experiencing Awareness is very important. People have stopped living in the in the state of awareness. We are I was just having a chat with somebody the other day. We are not creating. We are we are consuming every day we have to ask ourselves this question, what did I create today?

28:41 Did I just put water in a plant and create a plant? Help create that? Did I sing a song today? Did I take a drawing and a scribble something on my book today while talking or doing anything? What did I create instead of just sitting in front of a television and consuming? The moment we become creators, our bodies start falling in line. The more we become, we are consumers, the more body goes all over the place. And that's what creates imbalance because you're consuming everything else that is you.

29:10 You're not aware of whether it is in alignment with you or not. You have to know first. And to know what is in alignment with you, you need to do some inner work. It's like watching a blue sky in front of you, a beautiful blue sky in front of you when you're not in alignment. What will happen is, oh, that's a cloud. Oh, that's a cloud. Is that's a cloud. Oh, here's the airplane going. The cloud of fear, the cloud of worry, the cloud of jealousy, the cloud of of Oh my God, what's going to happen here?

29:34 A cloud of joy, a cloud of love. So many clouds keep going and we keep jumping. Every day, every moment, every two minutes, we keep jumping. The state that we need to be in is to be able to be in the state of awareness that we see the blue sky and we see the clouds go by as thoughts. OK, that's fear, that's fine. OK, that's love. I understand, but that's gratitude. Let them come, let them go, let them float. The moment we are able to come to a state where we can just focus on the blue sky and understand that blue sky is the eternal consciousness and let the floaters of the clouds go by without diving into every cloud and interacting so deeply with the every cloud.

30:15 That is the moment your awareness expands, and that's the moment when the awareness expands. Now the blue sky expands even more and that's where it engulfs you completely. You can, now you're focusing on the blue sky. Energy goes where attention goes, right? Energy flows where attention goes. So now you're looking at the blue sky. It becomes your reality. And that blue sky engulfs you all over 360. And that's where you're inside that cocoon or the the ball, beautiful ball of energy of consciousness.

30:43 And that itself aligns a lot of things in our body. So we have to be very careful of what we're listening to, what we're watching, what kind of songs you're listening to, what, what lyrics are there in that very, I'm very big on nature. I grew up in the foothills of Himalayas as a child. And I, my joke with my daughter that, you know, for my lunch break, I used to know which tree to go and which, which fruit is ripe at what time, which lunch I have to go. So come back from school and just my mom and dad used to, mom used to find us on the trees, pluck fresh fruits.

31:11 We had papayas, guavas, pears, you name it, all of these trees, but we knew, we knew which, which guava is going to get ripe in three days and which one we can eat today. We knew. That's observation, that's awareness while we were growing up. So nature is something that does that for me is gets me into alignment. Like you were saying, the rope thing is for you and it's different for anybody. If you have somebody plays a guitar, yes, go for it. That's meditation, that's your pathway, that's your door, Go for it.

31:37 You like to go for a run, go run. You don't have to sit down, close your eyes and say, OK, I'm going to meditate today. Now. No, that's your meditation. That's your pathway, that's your door. Go biking, go cycling, go to the gym, recover guitar, play a flute, do whatever you like. Find that thing is more important. Find that to find that activity that aligns you with joy, which fills you with joy, which lets you forget your body and, and, and mind and gives pure thrill to your soul. That is the activity that's meditation.

32:09 So once people align, I feel that is people go out of alignment and that's the reason all of these things happen. The more you're aligned, the more the cells know what they have to do. They're not confused, they're not getting different messages. That's what it is. Nobody believed and and there were some things like people say, Oh, this is all woo woo, you know, just keep talking about it. Nothing like this happens. Science is catching up to these phenomena's science is incredible. I love science, I love technology, I love gadgets, I love everything.

32:36 But I also know that science is catching up to what is already existing in the bigger consciousness. It's already there every decade, every year, science catches 50 years from today, if you told somebody they'll be Internet that you and me are right now talking. There's no wire between us. I can see you. I can see you shake head, you know, I can show you the agony wheel. Nobody would believe me. You wouldn't believe. I wouldn't believe. Nobody would believe because and people would say that's woo woo, right?

33:02 But it's not because now the science has caught onto the fundamentals of it and being able to decipher it and now it's put it here and it's in everybody's hands now it's reality. Science is caught up. And just the same way, there's so much more, so much more in the consciousness world, in the sigh world, in the metaphysical world that is there that we don't see, that we don't understand as normal 5 senses we're talking about. But it's there. The other beautiful thing is we are not here to force anybody.

33:28 You don't have to believe it if you don't believe it because you're on a journey here. You will only believe where you're supposed to believe or you're not supposed to believe. You're only seeing where seeing every individual is seeing what they're supposed to see at the right time, where their soul's journey is right now on this planet that we come as a human being. So there's some lessons there. That's why you're experiencing that there. Any experience that happens to us is because there is a lesson in that, that our soul needs to understand.

33:54 And once it gets that, it's like Mario, right? Mario, Super Mario, you, you've got level 2, now you're a champ, like a Level 3. You go 2 * 3 times, you lose your life, come back again, and then you're Level 3. But with human life, you start at Level 3 because you've done 2 levels already. You're Level 3 now that's your, you work. Then you start Level 3, you go level 4, level 5. And that's the purpose of us because with more experiences that we have as human beings, we are connected. We are just like I said, we're waves, we're all connected.

34:20 And it is adding to the bigger consciousness, which is always expanding. It's learning through us through our experiences as small waves. All these millions of small waves are contributing to the ocean, right? Every time a wave comes up, it takes in some oxygen into the water. It goes inside and the oxygenated water goes into the ocean. And then there's wildlife there, there's, there's, they're beautiful fishes there, everybody that need that oxygen. There's a purpose that is giving the small wave.

34:46 Each one of us is expanding the consciousness in its entirety. You want to add anything Christian? Like that one, you know what Abby said about playing the guitar? It's kind of a meditation that's really catch my ear. I'm more grounded than Abby. Maybe I don't have that much of experience. You know, I wouldn't tell I'm a non believer because it's just clearly not true. I'm not, you know, just not that deep in the subjects, but I'm playing the guitar and I know how meditating it's will I exactly know how is it?

35:20 You know, I'm just forget about and everything else. Also, I practice Kendall practice. Kendall is a Japanese martial arts and you know, Zen is kind of build upon this. These things. What I'll be talking about. Zen calls it differently, but you know, the same, the same logic behind everything. Everything is connected, everything have a reason. And awareness is very important. And in kendo the most important thing is awareness. You know, like physical condition, not enough, of course you need a good physical condition because you're still using your body.

35:51 But without awareness you cannot do anything. But with the awareness I on the really good matches, I really feel like that I'm not fighting with my opponent. It's more of us be more of like we are, we are connected and not not from little movement. But I'm already know what the other one gonna do. Not because I'm reading the mind, just I'm really connected with the other one. And you know, I I experiencing these kind of things and that's really, really catch me. So yeah, that's what I could add to it from my personal size, yes.

36:24 That's very interesting, Christian, what you mentioned, one of my students and my clients actually his, her son is, is 17 years old and he does jiu jitsu. So he was having one of jiu jitsu or karate or something he does and he was going for his test to get one of the belts. So he was on a brown belt or going to a black belt or something was going on. He had this very important test and he did that test and he went there and he didn't go through last week, right? The week before she he didn't qualify and he came back home.

36:53 He was very, you know, not feeling good. Why is this happening? All that. So his mom asked me to speak to him and we just had, you know, we work together. And that's exactly what I was telling him, what you said, Christian, when we went deeper, I was just telling him that you're not doing the moment, you're not doing it to win, and you know the win is already yours. Yes. The moment you're doing it for the joy and love of of experiencing that fact, that process, you become unbeatable. It's true. When you're driving a car.

37:23 Yeah, when you're driving a car. Now, remember when you learned driving a car for the first time, you were holding the wheels like this, right? We're all like, This is why we drive now after 20 years of driving it like this, because you know every signal, you know what the car is going to do. You know where is it going to go. And now it's, it's even if sometimes something you will, you will catch yourself thinking something in your mind while you're driving, but you're driving perfectly fine. You're stopping at all red signals, red lights, right?

37:48 You're taking the right turns, but your mind was somewhere else sometimes because now it becomes a subconscious programming for you, which flows. It's a flow state. Yes, it is. So whether it's a it's a Taekwondo or whether it's a guitar are jumping the ropes or telekinesis, for me, it's being in that flow state that is precious, that is like this, that. Is it is I experiencing it myself as well and then cause it to a machine mushy means you know the clean mind when you are not thinking about other things, just focusing on on that.

38:23 And of course, when you're driving, it's something so automatic. You kind of can do it on autopilot. But when you're fighting with an opponent, you have to be aware. Then you can't let yourself to think about other things. So that's the difference here. But yeah, I really can understand what you're talking. About when you're fighting what what I'm I was trying to say here is that when you're fighting and you're in that arena right on the mat, your awareness increases so much because you're in the flow state that you can see every move like a slow motion now.

38:50 Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly. So now it's slow motion because you're such a heightened state of awareness that every move is slow motion for you and you know what to do what And you, sometimes it is funny, sometimes you will also know what is the next move that your opponent is going to make. Exactly. It will tell you that. You guys know, I'll share with you on a nice facts that you guys maybe don't know or maybe you do know that the Facio system which is the body wide communication network which surrounds every organ, ligament, muscle in your body.

39:19 It's that white film that you take of chicken breasts sometimes and you know you throw it away. That is also known as a quantum organ and it has the ability for precognition. So it has a brain of its own. So it is able to sense when something is about to happen way before it's happened and the tension changes in your muscles and in your body and in your fascio system before you even make the move or before it even happens. It shows you that the body has these sixth sense or receptive abilities to this field.

39:53 The quantum field, as some people like to call it, like in a quantum biology, which is the science of biology and looking at it through the quantum lens, you know, going on a very small level or an or a very big level, right? Because it's all around us. But it's everything is a fractal. Everything that we see on the outside is repeating on the inside. But if you keep zooming in and zooming in, you keep finding the same thing over and over. You look into nature, you see these frequent patterns that seem to repeat.

40:21 And then the question you should be asking yourself is what is governing those patterns? You know, how is everything in nature spiral or cylindrical, circular or you know, it has this Fibonacci free, you know, sequence going through it, right? Another cool thing which I wanted to mention to you guys as you were talking was I thought about when you get goosebumps when something, when you feel good about something or when you feel excited about something. I feel that's like almost like your body giving you the physical symptom or signal of alignment through your body.

40:58 Would you agree with that? No, I don't know enough from the the biological reactions to say directly, yes, it's true. But you know, I I don't feel like it's, it's not possible. So. But what about you, Abby? What's your thoughts? So our body knows and that's called intuition. Intuition, I mean what you're seeing here is the body's reaction, because now very close to you something is happening or you're feeling something is quite close to you. So your body senses it. Like just you said, that membrane is there, body senses it and tells you and with awareness that we were talking earlier about when you're able to sit in the state of awareness, that intuition increases, the distance of that intuition increases.

41:35 If you can sit in in from your body, physical distance increases and the time this also increases, that is what happens. And when that happens, the intuition already tells you whether you should. Sometimes you'll get a feeling. Now I don't want to go out today. I mean, you can be sleeping and be lazy. That's a separate thing. But if you want to go and you you are ready to go and something tells, you know, I think you should not go today. That is your intuition telling you that guiding you telling you.

41:59 Now we don't have to be hand tied with Oh no, no, somebody things said I have to not go there. I'm not going. You go. But be careful. Intuition is telling you might be able to drive carefully that day. Might be, you'll find sometimes you go and you know, energy is so beautiful. Sometimes when you, you will feel this, Their room are full of 100 people. You walk in and you feel a little uncomfortable, right? You feel uncomfortable. You feel not in place, you feel off. You're not off, you're not in alignment.

42:27 You feel the odd one out without even talking to anybody. You've not talked to anybody. You just enter the room and you're there and you feel your odd and your odd one out. While there's some places where you go, you go in and there's that warmth and there's an embrace and there's that love and there's that light that you feel like you know everybody here, all of them are your friends. So energy speaks, Energy always guides you. Energy always tells you where you are supposed to be and where you're not supposed to be and move away from.

42:54 It's just that we have to listen. People have stopped sitting in silence. A lot of people are unable to sit in silence. Let me put it that way. Isn't it interesting with these stimulation stimulations that we have all around us? A lot of people have, you've gotten the ability to just sit in and, and the, the capability to just sit in silence for 5 minutes. And silence is one of the biggest doors for inner awakening, personal awakening, because it gets you all the questions that you've buried and you've kept your mind busy.

43:25 You kept your everything everyday life busy. But only once you answer all of those questions, your soul is going to be at peace because now you're getting into alignment with your higher consciousness and your higher purpose, and you get into alignment. It's not about the best watches or the best cars or the biggest houses. I know so many people who have all of that. My students, some of them, they have all of it, but they're like, I still feel empty inside Abbey. I still feel there is something.

43:49 The joy is not there in my life. I have everything. I just bought a new house on the lake, but that joy of living from inside is missing. I'm searching for that. I've been chasing my life, the next beautiful thing, the next best thing. But that doesn't come from that. That comes from inner awareness. That comes from personal awakening. That comes from finding your own soul purpose in the journey. What gives you joy if money is taken away? If I take away money from your life, what gives you joy? Why are you here?

44:16 That is the question to answer. What is your purpose? If an individual is able to answer that, and as soon they are able to answer in this life on planet Earth, the more beautiful the journey becomes. But I feel like you earlier answered this question like creation and experience, you know, because until you are just consuming, you're never going to feel like you fulfilled. You have to create to fulfill. Until you're just taking, taking, taking that's you're still going to feel empty because you can't take anything and it's not going to change.

44:47 Yes, but maybe creation. And you know, like that's how the Gallivia was made too. So like I already mentioned, Doctor George Ageley, he, he, he is the inventor of the Gallivia and he is a research engineer, basically was a research engineer and a researcher and he traveled around the world and he went to Syria, Jordania, India, Lebanon. And, you know, it's, it's helped to shape his interest in, in energy and, you know, the energy concepts about awareness, Maybe we can put that way, too. And since he was a researcher and engineer, he started to think about that, OK, there is something that's invisible.

45:27 We, we can't hold it. We, we can't measure it. Let's do something about it. And he started to work with his wife, Magdo. And a douche about a device that's can measure that energy. And for 10 years they did researches, they did testes, they did experiences. And that's what we made the aggregate. What we know know this because the whole concept was that let's, let's meet something that can help us measure, but we can't not see. Or at least maybe there is some people who are already experienced enough as already we talked about the the different senses, but most of our, you know, we are, we are not holding them, most of us living with $0.05 senses.

46:12 And you know, agglibel helps with that. Even if you are just aware of your $0.05, it still has to give you some feedback. And I guess right now I totally answered your earlier question about what is the agglibel. So it is, it is. That's why I said it's a vitality meter. You know, there is a bunch of things what affects the, the wheel itself, to be honest, you, you have to measure it with your hands and your hands giving heat away. And because it's very sensitive, that heat affects the wheel turning, of course, but I wouldn't put it that easily or OK, it's measures the heat of your hand because I guess there is more behind it.

46:49 And also, I did a lot of research and I couldn't find the right answer about that. You know, at least science don't know, you know, exactly in this moment what is heat in our body. We have a bunch of, you know, explanations about it. So, but still science, even science not saying that heat is not energy in that sense, what we're talking about. And basically that's what the ugly real measures. And that's why I wanted to quote from Doctor George Ugly. You know, it's still a playful device. So I'm not saying you should use it for checking your health situation.

47:25 You know, I wouldn't suggest it to anyone. They're like the opposite. I suggest not to do so play with it, get some feedback, enjoy it, you know, get more experience with it. But if you have some serious troubles, go to a doctor. I suggest that. And maybe if they can't have maybe some quantum healing care or something like that. But the device is not made for that. It's made for have fun as. It won't move like if you, if you try to do it like for intentional reasons, like, you know, I'm going to measure my health, it won't move like what I've personally found anecdotally, that if I just sit there and I try to make it spin faster, if I'm like in my head, OK, now I'm going to make it spin like Abby was talking about, it doesn't do anything.

48:06 But as soon as I start feeling this feeling of joy and happiness in my body, all of a sudden it starts spinning like crazy. And that just shows me that it doesn't have anything to do with the heat of the hand because the hand was in the same position. And then it's just like, OK, And then I learned also how to change the direction as well with my mind. And that's absolutely fascinating, which actually shows you that it's some fundamental force behind that movement. And I will actually ask you, Christian, like about the mechanics of the wheel and what it actually is so people fully understand.

48:38 But before we go there, Abby, do you feel, like, confident in answering? What do you think this force is? I think you kind of answered it like, over this entire discussion already. But what do you think this fundamental force is that is actually making the objects move? Yeah. So the ugly wheel is a is a fantastic do and device that me I use it, my family uses it, my daughter, my wife, everybody uses it in the house. And this is just for the audience who's listening out there. It's a device which is which measures your vitality, your energy force without any physical contact.

49:14 So that's what it does. And it has got these beautiful lights here. So it goes from orange to yellow to green. And the faster the wheel moves, the lights light up. And there's also a beep. So if it's on red, it'll go beep, beep. If it goes faster, it'll go beep, beep, beep, beep. That's going faster. So that's because if you want to do it close eyes, you can do that. Some people like to meditate with close eyes and want to do that thing. So it's still giving you a sense. So it is a very, very beautiful device.

49:39 It also has an app which records everything, all the sessions. So you can go back and see the app. It's a they've done a brilliant job with this device. Just one of the things that Christian was saying that you know what I do Christian is also I don't use my hands so early when I start telekinesis, I saw people using hands, but something inside me told me that I don't have to use hands. So my all my telekinesis is done. I call it psychogenesis. The same thing is by the mind and intention. So I don't use my hands for ugly wheel.

50:09 I just do it with my intention. I sit in front of it and it moves. Yeah, I just, I would like to add something here. I know you're using like this and there is some people using like this, but you know, for example, let's let's get a Yogi. We're using it too. You are experience with telekinesis, you can use the ugly wheel without it, but I have to put that way. You know, if someone not practicing telekinesis but still would like to meditate with it, yes, maybe they need the hands and that's why I'm always putting that way.

50:38 You should use with the hands because that way it's going to measure for everyone. And of course, if you above that you can't use without the hands. But I just wanted to make it clear. That my daughter and my wife, they use the hands. So they both use hands and they for the ugly wheel practice when they're doing and I can also use, I also use sometimes hands, but I prefer the other way around. But what we were talking about and Andreas question was what is it that is moving it? If I keep it 5 feet away from me and I'm able to move it or if I keep it in front of me, I put my hands around it.

51:09 Even if you take it a little bit far, that OK, If it is heat, let's say heat, even if it is heat, something is happening to it. If even if it is heat, there's something more to it that you know, Andreas is able to change the direction. I'm able to change the direction. How are we able to do that? Why? How am I able to say, OK, stop now? I don't I want you to stop and I want you to start. How do I do that? I want to go faster. We do it because one of the biggest things, and Andreas, you touched on such a beautiful note there.

51:35 You know, one thing, which is the biggest emotion that can bring tremendous transformations in anybody's life in their psychic journey, in their metaphysical journey, in their abilities journey in just being a human being is the emotion of love. There's nothing bigger than love, nothing bigger than love. That the the language of the universe is love. Gravitational forces, love, flora, fauna. Everywhere there's love. It expands with love. It grows with love, right? It propagates with love. Seeds are formed by germination, but they they germinate, they become flowers.

52:06 Then there's pollen and the stamens. Everywhere you see, there is love. And that's the inherent DNA of our conscious world, of this entire planet. The moment we get into the feeling of love, our energies expand, our energy sites, spheres become bigger. The bigger they and the more aligned they are, the more movement you will see. It is not about sitting in meditation for 12 hours a day and saying okay, something is going to come. It doesn't happen that way. It could be that you're just watering your plants 5 minutes a day and that opens every door for you.

52:41 It's the, it's the thought process that goes behind you. If you're putting water in the plants because you have to finish the job and run, you're not in the present moment. You're just putting water and then you're going, you lost the entire thing there. But those 5 minutes, if you're present in that present moment when you're putting the shower of water on those plants, the intention that you do it with, you can have the plant give bountiful amazing fruits and plants and vegetables with the same water that you're doing because your intention is, is love.

53:11 Or you can just put water and run away and you'll get an average yield. And there have been experiments where you know, you give love to the water, it absorbs all the energy and you put it in the plant and the plant thrives. So I, I believe there is a lot of fundamentals that are centered on the feeling of love, love of humanity, love of being better ourselves. How do we become better every day and how do we make everything better for everything in the world? Another thing comes to my mind of ugly wheel.

53:40 How do I use it? They're amazing ways to use ugly wheels and a lot of people think, OK, I'm just going to put my, you know, hands around, it moves and I'm done for the day. It is an experiment of like a tool that you can do so many experiments with. You can change your diet. You can just eat fruits one day and then see what happens to your your ugly wheel practice. If you didn't sleep well, you slept only two hours. Do it next morning and see what happens when you see sleep deprived. What does it do to your energy?

54:06 You went for a run. You know you had a you did a good gym session. Come back and see what does it do to your energy levels. You went and met somebody and you didn't feel good. See what it does to your energy. You went and had a great time with your friends. You just came back. Your energy is completely different. Use the ugly wheel. It'll tell you where you are. Yeah, I could say it's a little bit like a mirror. Like if you, you know, you've got a new dress like suite for example, you you're going to check yourself in the middle to check that or you just have a new haircut or you're planning on a new haircut.

54:39 The mirror is always the same, but the intentional hope you're using it is always giving you a different feedback about your state in the moment. And basically that's what the Agglivio does as well. That's incredible. Yeah. I like all of this discussion is absolutely amazing. I'm. I'm loving all of it. So let's dive deeper than into the EGLI wheel because I feel like we've laid like a fantastic foundation for the audience about telekinesis, energy, the quantum field, everything that is invisible, which is influencing physical matter that includes the human body clearly, right?

55:14 As you mentioned, when you are in alignment, you feel good in your body when you are in alignment with your path and your purpose on this planet. I couldn't tell you that for myself that couple of years ago. I just kind of caught myself in the moment where you know, when you're posting online and you have this false sense of purpose with that. When you post online and you feel like you're going somewhere, but actually you're kidding yourself. Sometimes you've got to give yourself that wake up call.

55:41 And anyway, this kind of download or like something hit me, right? And it made me realize that I need to be more present in the moment and start aligning with the things that are what's actually going to take me forward in life with my mission. And so when I started doing that, the podcast was born, started following my path. I started interviewing people, which I love, learning from incredible people like yourselves, some of the greatest minds in the world. And I'm so honored for them. And we get to share this experience, our knowledge and wisdom and our personal experience with the world.

56:16 And thousands of people will get to hear this now and also in the future. And this is like amazing. And This is why I truly believe that energy is everything and how you live your life, whether you are disassociated, scrolling your phone all the time, being constantly over stimulated. So you are so overwhelmed in your brain that you do not have the capacity to be present. And I feel like we are in a spiritual war these days. And This is why it's so important for people to take ownership and responsibility.

56:47 And if you are listening to this podcast, let it be like like a seed or a sign for you to take more ownership over your awareness in your daily life acts, for example, like when you're doing something as something as simple as like drinking water, being present while you drink instead of just Downing it all. The same thing with eating. A lot of people like to distract themselves these days, watch something while they're eating food and they forget that they're, you know, they didn't get to enjoy all of the pleasures of the food and the gratitude to connect with the food.

57:20 Where did that food come from? You know, this is the issue with the modern world. And this is exactly why we are having this discussion because this hits, it's a very fundamental factor which relates to health, but also not only physical health, but the health of the planet, the health of our relationships with each other. Because if we all live with presence and awareness, we can be better to each other. But noticed when someone is 1/2 looking forward in their mind and they are in a hurry in their mind but not in their physical body, your interaction with that individual will not be as good as if they were 100% present with you in that moment.

57:58 Because I don't believe that people are bad in this world. I feel like people are misaligned. Like Abby explained beautifully that when we are out of alignment and there is this coherence or incoherence in the body, AKA chaos, then you cannot reflect beauty, that it's, it's reflected in your energy field. And now the best thing about the Egele wheel, which we will now learn about more, is that I can actually measure the. And so, yeah, I love it. Also the fact that, you know, with the Egele wheel in the box, you get this nice booklet which tells you about the history and it also tells you about all of the different things which influence your energy and the fact that people who are happier tend to have an easier time moving the wheel.

58:41 And that's like absolutely a amazing maybe like Christian, do you want to maybe tell me a bit about the mechanics of the wheel itself, like because so people can get an understanding for people who are listening and not actually watching the video. Yes, of course I will. For this, I'm going to use my notes because I'm not as an engineer, so it's easier for me. Yeah, so we already mentioned it several times. It's highly sensitive. It's made with a 72 spoke rotating wheel for immediate feedback. Let me show usually I'm not suggest to take the wheel out because it's so, you know, sensitive, but it's already a test device.

59:19 So that's the wheel itself. That's you know, just it's a very, very thin and there is 72 spokes on it. It's needs for the best measurement. I don't exactly know, you know, the physical reason behind why it's have to be 72 spokes, but Doctor George Egely through his research searches worked so much on it. He tried from 50. I guess that was the first prototype. It didn't work. Well, you know, I don't want to deep dive into something. I don't have too much experience. Just let's let's get with that.

59:51 It's have to be 72 spokes because Doctor Jerry, doctor George eagerly said so because it's the best that's way. So as we already mentioned with Abby, you should use it without touching it. So touch is the worst you can do with it. It's totally gonna, you know, put on a wrong direction your measurements so you can use with the hands near to it or as Abby use without the hands, but do not touch it. It's it's. Important technical background about it. And the change is what we can call it energy, heat, anything.

1:00:23 It's going to rotate and that's measures. And as Abby already said, you know, the lamps turning on with the spill with the spin piece. So that's what the device itself measures and you know, like basically the wheel itself was technically the important part of it and all of us, all of the other things, it's just haves for a better feedback. Like Abby mentioned that some people using it with closed eyes. That's why there is some in it. And we have the Airwr Live platform. Back then we had the phone application.

1:00:57 It's still alive, but we made a new platform that can log all of your measurements. It's very important in our opinion. That's why we worked on it. It's important to log them because you know for example, you just getting home from the gym, you're measuring it so it's already logged. 2 weeks later you still can't check how it turned out. You know, it's can give you a better oversight about your energy work and what you said about scrolling. We never tested it, but it can be a very interesting, you know, self insight.

1:01:33 Try to not score for a day and measure yourself with the ugly bill and the next day just do the scrolling as usually. Don't force it. Just, you know, not hold yourself and check your measurement that day and try, you know, one day like this, one day like this. I never tested, so I don't have proof about it, but I'm kind of sure it's going to be a very, very visible difference between those days if you line them up. So it's it's can be interesting. And there another thing it's it's not a scientific word, but Vico, that's what we call the life energy.

1:02:10 George Agili made this word. It's really exists in the word of Egalia. So they don't have to handle it. It's something true for the more word. But if you're using the Egalia, the 2424 numbers, you can see it's each one of one V coup. That's what the Agglia measures. And I can't tell too much more about the technical background because technically that's the device. I guess it's more interesting in the spiritual way or the self measurement or awareness from the awareness point of view about the history.

1:02:44 I already talked so I'm not going to repeat that. And there is a bunch of experiences what George Egelly made, but you know, it's convert a separated podcast episode. So I'm not going to dive into that. But if someone from the audiences career is about that, they can find our web page. It's agil.com and there you can find everything. The research is the history of George Agelli, Magdal Naduj, the the wheel itself, some more technical background about the Agiliville and also the awards. But George Agili gained with the wheel so it's quite interesting.

1:03:23 It's worth to check if someone want a deep dive into the Agili wheel, there is a lot of information. But specifically with Doctor George Agili, did he not he? I believe he had like a disinterest in this subject at the beginning of energy or like kind of like he didn't really believe in this stuff right at the beginning. It was something that he actually had to go and research because his wife brought it to his awareness or something like. That Oh no, no, it's it's not like this. So basically he wasn't so it not was like he was interest in, you know, like Qi or anything.

1:04:00 Energy works. But through his troubles, he got more and more and more interest. So he started to get more aware of it. You know, he just started to experience this because especially those countries, for example, India, their awareness is totally handled like, handled differently than at the West. They are more heavier, more more spiritual, let's put it that way. And hope he spent time there and experienced a lot of things. He became curious. I guess that's the right word. You know, he was a researcher, he was a, a science, a scientific person.

1:04:31 So he got curious, he started to deep dive in it. He started to believe kinda I can, I can say he started to believe and he wanted to make it measurable. So it's he made 2 words meeting 30 years ago. Nowadays, you know, people are more open and science starting to catch up. So you know, maybe it's not that interesting now this, but 30 years ago, you know, science was colder than no days. So it's they said he bring these two words together. Let's dive into the practical tips now. I think for the audience, let's assume that someone already has one or if they are going to purchase one.

1:05:10 Some best practices for someone who is just starting. Like you know, when I started, for example, I just started experimenting, right? But since we have you guys on the show who really know about it, whoever feels most comfortable to answer this question, what would be some like best tips that you would give to an absolute begin to maybe like make it easier for them to really like start to give them this excitement that they are really like, you know, channelling their inner. OK, I I really handle this question in 2 levels.

1:05:39 Let me start with level 1. You know the very basics. So I suggest to start to use it with the hands at first for better experience. Maybe later on you can get better with it and it's not needed anymore. First of all, don't force it. You already mentioned it, Andreas. Don't try to make it move. Just put your hands there. Be aware of it, you'll be involved in the situation. And if it starts to spin, just enjoy. Just have the joy of it, of it. That's very important. A little bit more technical, try to use it in an environment, environment with the least, you know, like a physical effects like wind.

1:06:13 That's that's not good for it or heat. The best is room temperature. So close the windows, you know, put it on the table. Yeah, it's it's have to be on a. Flat. Flat surface, thank you very much. Flat surface for the best measurements and you know, just start to experience it the first two weeks. In my opinion, it's about experiencing the wheel and not really measuring yourself. You just have to get familiar with it. Like with driving, you know, we already talked about it the first time you're getting in the car and you are you are just so overwhelmed about a lot of things happening with you.

1:06:47 Of course the aggregate is not that complicated as driving a car, but still, you know you are not familiar with it. So give time for yourself. And I would give the word to Abby for the the other level when you really starting to work with it because he's more experienced in that than me. Absolutely. I would say have fun. I would say don't take it too seriously. Don't take life too seriously. The best thing is that you have to go with an open mind. Don't have too many expectations. Don't have anything.

1:07:17 Just go with it as if you're a 5 year old child and your father just got this for you. What would you do with it? How would you because the expectations completely change when you think as an adult and when you think that you are five years old, right? Because now you've not gone through the grind of the of the society, you think differently and your goals are more inwards. They're not outwards. You don't want to show off to people that I can run it so fast Now it's for you. I moved it. Oh, it's moving Today.

1:07:44 I, I touched the yellow light today from the red light. I came to yellow first time. These, these moments of wonder are beautiful. Again, being in the present, like we were talking, be present in the moment is the big big is the biggest present you can give to yourself. So you can do it like if you get it, start doing it. Do it at the at the time that if you feel good, find out today, if you feel in the evening after having a shower and everything all day, you want to just 1015 minutes wind down.

1:08:10 You can use it at that time in the morning when you wake up, you want to get going with your day. You want to charge yourself, align yourself. You can use that. You can make a rhythm out of it, or you can use it as a as a, as a, as a free thing whenever you feel like. So I feel, you know, it's just like just create. It's creativity, right? Free flowing creativity. When you feel like you can put structure to it, you can create a painting within a canvas, which is 4 feet by 6 feet. That's still creativity, but you're putting a boundary to it so you can do it Morning.

1:08:39 OK, before I go to work, I'm going to do this when I wake up. Or you can go free, right? Creativity is everywhere in the world. You can do it at any time of the day. And also be curious. Be curious about, yeah, but be. Curious and enjoy. Enjoy the process. Yes, and also curiosity has to give you more reasons to to use it. You know like we already talked about it. After the gym, do it for two weeks, Measure, measure, measure after gym session, after lunch and check how visits, what shows it to you.

1:09:10 Yes. Yes, absolutely. As you mentioned, it's like a vitality meter, right? It gives you a little bit of a reflection of your energy field, or rather, instead of thinking like intensity of energy field, more like how coherent your field as you both beautifully described throughout this entire podcast episode. Thank you so much, gentlemen. I absolutely loved and enjoy this conversation. Is there any last words of wisdom you'd like to leave the audience with before we closeout the? Make the invisible visible.

1:09:39 I love that and I will make sure to leave all of your links in the description below as well as in the pinned comments so people can actually find you guys. And if anybody's interested in checking out the Egli wheel that we talked about a way to actually measure your biofield as some people actually call it in the scientific sense as well or like your aura, your energetic body, then there will be a link in the description with also a discount code so you guys can enjoy that as well. So thank you so much for doing this guys.

1:10:07 It was an absolute. Pleasure. Thank you very much. Please stay on the line when I end the recording. Thank you, it was really a pleasure being here with you guys. If you guys enjoy the topics and guests I bring on the show, I would really appreciate if you left me a five star review on Spotify and subscribe to Fitness Wisdom Podcast on YouTube as well. This helps us spread the knowledge and wisdom with the world. Until next time.