Keto, Fasting & Cardio are Aging You! Dr. Alex Orton on Carbs, Seed Oils, Nicotine, Biohacking, Life Force Energy, Detox, Vitality & Purpose

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0:09 Are you guys ready to get unplugged from The Matrix today? I invite everybody to keep an open mind for our discussion because there are there are many things which are shared on social media and on the Internet that we see that make everything seem so black and white, right? And this episode is meant to challenge your belief system. And by keeping an open mind, maybe you walk away, away from this discussion by gaining something new and being able to integrate or discard something from your life which you actually thought was actually benefiting you.

0:38 And we've got Doctor Alex Orton on the line today, which he shares some incredible knowledge and information on social media. Definitely go and check him out. His links will be in the description below. So thank you for coming on the show, Doctor Alex. It's a pleasure to have you. Thank you, Andreas. Appreciate it. So let's start off with a bit of a controversial 1. So lately you posted the post on, on Instagram, which was a, and really you make these really nice pictures. I'm sure that many people have seen your style on social media and I've noticed that many other brands and people actually have started copying your style.

1:10 Well, I don't know who kind of started it first, but I really love it. You know, it's super engaging. It's a lot. It's like, you know, one picture is like 1000 words, right? And yours is like 1,000,000 words pretty much. And one that you made was about unhealthy things which are actually healthy. Do you want to enlighten us on that? What do you actually mean? By that, yeah. You know, I think that there's there's so many different perspectives in the holistic medicine world and frankly, there's just a lot of bad ideas and and, you know, I don't know where some of these ideas came from.

1:44 You know, I think a a lot of it is an attempt to find alternatives to the conventional model. And, you know, because it's alternative to the mainstream model, it's like you get this diversity of opinions because everyone's kind of searching for for different things. But through that process, I think a lot of crazy ideas develop. So, you know, a, a, a good example is the idea that carbs are, are somehow poison for you. And I know that you've talked about this on your podcast before in the like ketogenic, carnivore, paleo, kind of like current chapter that we're experiencing in the nutrition and holistic space.

2:27 There's this idea that carbs are and, and, and sugar is poison. People think that like sugar causes cancer and the idea is to get like your blood sugar as low as possible. Like any, any increase in, in blood sugar, blood glucose over like 100 is, is somehow going to create chronic inflammation and like heart disease and, and things like this. And you know, I'm not like a big like research kind of guy. I don't spend my time on PUD pub Med analyzing studies. I, I approach things from a pretty like common sense practical perspective.

3:04 It's not to say that I don't take like research seriously. It's just like not my main cup of tea. I let other people kind of do that work. And then I, you know, I kind of learn from other people that are, that are smarter than me, that are able to, to look and analyze studies. But I look at like history, like the historical context, you know, like you live in the Mediterranean. It's like there are plenty of longevity spots in Greece and Italy where people are living to 100 plus years and completely healthy, super high libido gardening.

3:35 Like living on their own and dying peacefully in their sleep beyond 100 years old. And these individuals eat tons of carbs. I mean, it's, it's part of the culture, it's it's part of the lifestyle. They've been doing it for hundreds, if not thousands of years. So just a simple example like that. It's like it, it just, it completely destroys the idea that carbs are poisoned. Because if you get a group of people and you know by by percentage they're living way longer than the rest of the population and they're eating sourdough bread and fruit and rice and potatoes, it's like, well, clearly there's something wrong with that theory.

4:14 Guys, if you haven't already smashed that subscribe button and the like button, now back to the show. Oh yeah, you hammer the very important point there. And it's just that nuance and context is everything. I feel like with with social media, they love to remove the nuance and context and make these blanket statements like that applies to everyone. And it's not at all like that. Maybe there is a situation in time when someone would benefit by doing a keto low carb diet for whatever reason, right?

4:40 But then the majority of the time you wouldn't really want to be there. You would want to use these as strategic tools in your toolbox for whatever reason, you believe that it may be beneficial, for example. But at the same time, you need to ask the deeper question, why can my body not tolerate carbohydrates, for example? Why is it having issues? Why are my insulin resistance to carbohydrates? Because everybody loves to blame carbohydrates on insulin because of insulin resistance, because they think the insulin resistance is caused by carbohydrates when in reality there's so many environmental factors and through diet as well, dietary choices or even overconsumption of food, which is the most basic one that can just alone make you insulin resistant temporarily.

5:28 You know, and it's just so easy to just pinpoint one thing and blame in one thing, when in reality, I feel like people are outsourcing their responsibility to something external from themselves. And they don't want to like take the responsibility for themselves to actually think, what could I be possibly doing which is making my body not be able to handle certain things. Do you want to talk to me a little bit about, I know that this I'm not promoting cigarettes by the way, but I'm just I'm just wondering your viewing your opinion on smoking and nicotine in general like that.

6:04 I'm pretty sure you've heard about the the benefits of nicotine. I'm a I'm a very big user of Nicknack. I truly believe in the incredible benefits that it has to offer. Now, I'm not telling anybody that you should go and and do it, you know, or take any nicotine. I'm just saying that I've noticed incredible benefits and there is some incredible research out there. Do you want to maybe go down that rabbit hole, you know, talk a little bit about that? Yeah, again, I'm not, I'm not an expert in biochemistry and understanding like the, the, the long term consequences of like chronic Nicotinus or anything.

6:36 Again, I look at history. There's plenty of people that are living super long life and smoking cigarettes or smoking cigars. Of course we're not talking about the, the Super toxic industrial made cigarettes that have a bunch of chemicals in it 'cause I think that's really the problem. Actually a funny story. I have a, a, a medical doctor colleague. He's a really cool guy. I won't share his name, but we were at a, a little workshop together and we were staying in this hotel and I went outside and he was smoking a cigarette.

7:08 And he, he was like very apologetic. He was kind of embarrassed that I saw him. And he said, Hey, you know, I just, I just want you to know, like this is hand rolled, it's completely pure. And then later he came up to me and said, Hey, just so you know, the research actually shows that there's no harm in, in smoking cigarettes if they're pure tobacco, you know, like the Native Americans in America did. He, he told me about this study where they actually attached like little gas masks to mice and expose them to tobacco smoke like 24/7 pure tobacco smoke.

7:45 And they didn't get lung cancer. So I think a lot of the downstream consequences of smoking is from the carcinogens, you know, potentially even like conventional tobacco with pesticides on it. Like of course, I'd, I would recommend doing organic, but again, I think it's everything in moderation. So I don't, I'm not promoting smoking cigarettes either. I I'm not necessarily promoting doing high amounts of nicotine every day, but it seems to be that there's a lot of evidence that a moderate amount of that is is totally fine.

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9:22 And I guess like everything you know, there is like AU curve, right or a bell curve. So if you find the sweet spot for your body like in your situation in time, because I guess it can put push someone's nervous system over the edge if they're like too fried or something like that. It just, I think it depends on your redox potential and your status really, how you, how healthy you are. And if you are unhealthy, I feel like it could push your mitochondria way too much and it could, you know, damage them even more.

9:51 And I to put this in even more context and, and nuance, I believe it's a lot to do with what people are doing with the rest of their lives as well. So if someone is like eating well, they're sleeping well, they have good circadian rhythms, they're detoxified from the other things, right? And and then they are doing something like, you know, I'm not a big proponent of smoking. This is why I use the Knick knacks myself, right, because I prefer to just bypass the the smoke element. However, I have heard some spiritual type of podcasts talking about connecting with, you know, mother tobacco sort of it seeing it sort of like a sacred experience and there's something special in connecting with the plants.

10:32 And I feel there is a massive attack on this in the world right now. I don't know if you've noticed, but here in Cyprus specifically and in Europe, they are bumping the taxes up like crazy on cigarettes. And so people are having going to have a way harder time night to get access to cigarettes. And I feel like there is going to be eventually, because I'm sure you've heard about the story where people in COVID who actually smoked were less likely to develop any symptoms compared to people who didn't smoke, which was actually showing how like nicotine binds to the receptor and somehow it inhibits the, the, the virus, whether exists or not like to, you know, go in and do damage.

11:12 So there is all these kind of things. And so just to bring it into perspective, it's so important to realize, yeah, it's about the health and of the host of the individual, right? So let's not go too deep down this rabbit hole because maybe some people will already like tune off thinking that this is going to be a nicotine smoking, you know, advert. I just wanted to kind of share that, you know, just because I've had a very positive like personal experience with that noticing a boost in my energy levels and my cognition and in my even in my hormones and just even on the days when I cycle off it.

11:46 So I like to do 5 days on and two days off per week. And I take very low dose, like 1.5 milligram. I cut a 3 milligram, you know, what do you call it? One of those that you stick in your lip and I just have that And then that works for me absolutely fine. Sometimes when I have a bit higher, like 3 milligrams, I just feel like a little bit like lightheaded and a bit more nauseous. Kind of feels like it depletes my system or my body like burns through carbs or something like way, way faster. So I just feel like maybe it's not, you know, the, the most desirable thing unless you're like super fueled or you know, you have enough cellular energy.

12:22 Do you want to maybe tell me about other things that people are doing which are, or rather what other things which are actually unhealthy, which are believed to be unhealthy and they are, they are actually good for us?

12:37 I the, you know, the guy that I always go to for this is Raymond Pete, Doctor Ray Pete. He was like the, you know, the original contrarian that had all of these ideas that went totally against mainstream thinking. So the idea that milk is bad for you or that we shouldn't drink milk or that everyone's lactose intolerant. There's again, there's I don't think there's any real good evidence for this. And again, I go back to like the longevity cultures in I think it's Greece. There's, you know, big sheep farmers and and, or shepherds, I guess you'd, you'd say, and, and a lot of sheep milk consumption and cheese consumption, things like this.

13:25 So the yeah, that dairy is bad for you, that, that fish oil and polyunsaturated fats are good for you because of this idea of, of like a, what do you call it, an essential fatty acid deficiency that we need to get these fats from our diet. And maybe there's some truth to that, that we need to get some. But the idea that people are, are supplementing with like tablespoons of fish oil on top of what they're already going to be getting from like grass fed meat and, and, you know, and, and things like this, it's like, I don't, I don't think that there's a, a good reason to, to supplement with additional polyunsaturated fats.

14:08 These are fats that are extremely susceptible to being broken down with heat and oxidation just sitting on the shelf. They can break down and then it's basically just a bottle of free radicals, right? These are the same kinds of fats that are in seed oils that break down with heat. Of course, there's, there's a whole, this is a whole class of, of, of fatty acids and there's different types, there's different types that are in fish oils compared to, to seed oils. But the point is we're being bombarded already with huge amounts of polyunsaturated fats because of the the use of seed oils.

14:46 I don't know about in, in your culture in Cyprus, what it's like, but in America, you know, it's, they're subsidized, they're in, you know, every restaurant is basically using seed oils unless you're in like a really cool community and people are really aware of that. So that's another one. I think that like really, you know, when when we post these posts and say, oh, things that people think are healthier and actually unhealthy and we say fish oil, everyone like freaks out yes, like what do you mean?

15:12 I've I've been taking fish oil for years. I heard that it was the best thing for. You yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's, it's it's so huge. I mean, people don't also understand the difference between something in the food matrix versus like a supplement. Like, of course, supplements do have their time and place, you know, some, some things that we don't get in our diet anymore, but things that you actually can't get from nature, I feel like should always be eaten within the food matrix. Like if you're going to, you know, if you're worried about DHA or Omega threes, I would of course eat the whole fish.

15:44 I feel like it's just so much less susceptible to being, you know, damaged in comparison to taking a capsule which has been sitting on the shelf and oxidizing and sitting in a plastic bottle under fluorescent lighting and, you know, travel through heat. It's not even temperature regulated and then you're consuming it. But never mind about that. Let's what about like the actual seed oils that you talked about that people are frying their food in and it's a really, really like a huge issue. What kind of problems and symptoms are you seeing or have you heard of people experiencing from consuming too many seed oils?

16:19 That's an interesting one because I don't think that the effects are super obvious and direct in the short term. Now, I'm sure everyone has experienced going to a restaurant eating a whole basket of fries and feeling like like crap afterwards. It's almost like your vision feels like it's kind of yellow, you know, like you're wearing like you're wearing yellow, blue like glasses. But you know, I, I think you know, Chris, Master John has done a lot of really good research. He's, I think he's one of the best in the nutritional space as far as understanding research and understanding the nuances like you're talking about.

16:55 Because I don't think that he would argue that that the essential fatty acids don't exist like a lot of people in the repeat space think that the whole idea of essential fatty acids is like a bunk theory. And again, I'm, I don't have the, the, the research background to prove that one way or another. So I take a more moderate approach. Just like you said, it's like, I'm not against eating salmon. You know, if you're eating the whole thing, of course you're going to be getting some fish oils in the salmon.

17:27 But, and, and you could argue whether or not that's good or not, but I, I think that when you're eating it in the Whole Foods matrix, it's much more protected. It's much safer that way. You're getting smaller amounts than if you're actually supplementing with, with larger amounts. But you know, going back to Chris Masterjohn, I, he's done a lot of good research around this. And I don't think that you really start to see symptoms and, and like lab results, for example, becoming abnormal until like 10 plus years of consuming seed oils.

18:01 And this is one of the reasons why the mainstream continues to promote the idea that there's no problem with seed oils, because they're not actually tracking the data long enough. They're not watching the populations over a long enough time horizon. That's one of the problems with research in general. It's like you can't just study people for two years and understand how seed oils impact the body when they're being stored in the tissues and people are eating them for decades. You know, so I don't think there's a lot of research actually around long term.

18:35 And, and I don't know exactly the, the timeline that would be like 10. I think it's like 10 plus years of, of seeing the, the impact. And I would say that's the case with a lot of toxins in general. You know, when people switch out their toxins and in terms of like that household products or their body care products or cleaning products, I don't expect that you're going to switch out toxins in your home and then wake up the next morning and feel like a different person. That's just not how toxicity works.

19:05 It's right. It's like a low grade inflammation with a tox. The the toxic load is slowly building up over time. And then down the line you're going to start to see degeneration and problems. So, you know, if you're I, I work with a lot of people that have like serious chronic illnesses, that's always a part of the picture is like removing the toxic load from the system. But I don't, you know, I don't think that that's going to make an instant impact. But of course, everyone should do that because you're going to be really giving yourself a lot of real estate long term if you're decreasing your toxic load.

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20:14 This is why I make sure to get my bare feet on the ground every single day and to ensure that I stay grounded 24/7 like our. Ancestors, did I use my favorite grounding sheet as I sleep to keep me connected to the earth at all times? Check out my favorite grounding mats and sheets that I use on a daily basis by heading over to the description below and make sure to use the promo code attached. To get a massive discount on your entire order, 1000%. And that was such an important like topic that you touched upon there about the toxicity load because whether we are aware of it or not, whether we feel fine in the moment, you know, smelling all these air fresheners, using toxic shampoos, deodorants, you know, toothpaste and so on.

20:55 We may not feel it like temporarily, but as you said, it has a cumulative load and your body has, let's say a certain threshold or a bucket which has a limit, right? And once it exceeds that, that's when I guess you could say that symptoms begin to manifest, whether that is in some kind of allergies or some kind of autoimmune or something like, you know, an attack on your thyroid or something like this. Whatever your weakness is, everyone has like weak link, you know, in their body and it only reveals itself under times of extreme pressure.

21:28 Like a great example of this is if you were to place yourself under heavy barbell squats and you know, let's say you had really strong glutes and a really strong lower back, but then you had poor ankle, ankle mobility, then that would compromise your lower back inevitably. And then your back would give out. Not because your back isn't strong, but because there is a weak link in your system. And so you need to be able to understand that, OK, instead of pushing your body all the way there unnecessarily where it doesn't need to go to actually overcome it afterwards, it's better to prevent the situation from happening in the 1st place.

22:03 And because as you said, people don't notice the symptoms immediately, immediately they think, oh, I don't need to care about these things because all this stuff that they see online about alternative health and holistic stuff and, you know, using natural things, it's all bullshit. But in reality, it's like, OK, well, you know, if you actually want to feel good on a daily basis, for example, if you have low energy, if you have fatigue, if you have all the time congested nose or if you have like puffiness in your face.

22:30 These are all different symptoms and signs that something is overwhelmed in your system. Your lymph fatty system for some reason is overwhelmed. If you're gaining weight, even if you're eating less food and you're exercising more and you're doing all the things, why is your body not able to let go of the weight? Do you maybe have store toxins in your fat where your body actually doesn't want to let go of the fat into your bloodstream and circulate to your vital organs like your brain and your liver and these different places and actually cause a bigger damage to your system?

23:01 And is it waiting for you to reduce your toxic burden load in order to be be able to then allow you to start burning the body fat, start reducing the swelling, the inflammation? Because all of these things you and me both know are symptoms and an adaptation really based on the situation is the body is always doing the best that it can based on the situation. But if you are, you know, having these things, then you need to realize that how can I assist my body? And that's basically what Alex is saying is that you need to, you know, still take this precautionary approach.

23:35 And another important thing that you mentioned was about the seed oils and the quality of the seed oils, the type of the seed oils. For example, I'm not against nuts and seeds, right? I don't consume them personally, but for example, every now and then, if I was faced in a situation where I would consume them, ideally I would want them raw and organic and unheated and unprocessed and unsalted and all that good stuff. Because there is something I feel like if you pick an almond from a tree and I had recently posted, you know, on my stories, you know, a picture of an almond tree and it's absolutely beautiful when it's blooming, right?

24:08 There's all these beautiful like blossoms on it. And you see that there is that sacred geometry within the tree. And there is something fundamental about that. You know, your, your mind and everything connects with that. And if you were to see the almonds from that tree is totally different from eating it from a, you know, from the shelf, from a bag on the shelf, you know, so that you are connecting with something greater than yourself like God or the universe. You know, there is an imprint within that food.

24:34 You are, it's sort of like a time stamp within your biochemistry and within your biophysics about your environment and your situation and your season. Do you want to add anything to this before we move on? I. Totally agree with you. Again, I, I caution people around nuts and seeds because a lot of people think that nuts and seeds are like the healthiest thing in the world. And they're eating lots of like, like trail mix and, and you know, using nuts for lots of their calories or for snacks, things like this.

25:07 And then you're going to be getting a lot of those polyunsaturated fats. But do I go out of my way to avoid like, you know, hummus at a, at a Mediterranean restaurant that they use sesame seeds? No, you know, do I go out of my way to like completely avoid all nuts and seeds? No, I, I will eat them sparingly. I kind of think of it more as like a taste, like kind of a taste modifier that's that's put into a dish like pistachios, you know, great example. Super tasty. Yeah, so good, Right. But I'm not eating handfuls of pistachios every day.

25:44 So I tend to agree with you. You know, like nuts and seeds were given to us by God. There are natural food. I think in moderation, there's nothing wrong with that. And I do want to go back to the point that you made about the total load, because I think that this is, this is also relevant. This is I explained this concept to all of the clients that I work with is that the body is able to manage a lot of of stresses and toxicities on the system. The the analogy I use is like a bucket and, and there's, there's water dripping into the bucket and every drip is like a stress or a toxicity.

26:22 The the easiest way to think about it is just stress. Like if you have nutrient deficiencies or eating lots of seed oils or you're, you're consuming a lot of toxins, you're not getting enough sunlight, you're dehydrated. These are all stresses. You could also think about it as like toxicities like this, that slow trickle of toxicities over time. So the body is able to manage a lot of that toxicity. This is one of the reasons why children tend to be very healthy despite, you know, like when I was growing up, you probably didn't have any of this food in, in, in Greece, but we were eating toaster strudels and fruit roll ups and sodas and candies.

27:00 And I mean, the, the, the kind of food that I ate, I can't believe that I, you know, that I'm even breathing right now. And, and that's like a miracle. That's like a miracle that let God made our bodies that resilient. The, the body is able to manage a lot of stresses and maintain homeostasis despite a lot of these, you know, these toxicities in our environment. But eventually the bucket overflows. The, the, the straw breaks the camel's back. And that can happen slowly over time where the symptoms kind of just start to creep in and things just slowly get worse.

27:33 Or like you said, there could be a major stressor or a major toxicity. It could be a psychological stress, It could be an environmental stress like mold or like a, a medical intervention or whatever that adds a lot of toxicity suddenly to the system and pushes you over the edge. And, and then, you know, a lot of people that I work with, I say, OK, well, when did this start? And they'll say, oh, I know exactly when it started, May of 2021. And I'm like, well, what happened in May of 2021 or what happened six months prior?

28:07 And most people have an answer to that question. They know whether it's, they got, they, you know, they, they got a divorce or they broke up with their partner or they, they had a medical procedure. And it's not that that singular event is the complete cause of their issue because there was already that toxic load that was building up over time, but that event pushed them over the edge. And once the body is now decompensated and the bucket is now overflown, now you have to kind of go above and beyond to really recreate that balance for yourself because now the body is like, you could think of it like the tissues are overwhelmed.

28:49 So you really need to be aware of toxicities and dietary deficiencies and stresses more than you were that you needed to worry about before because your body was still kind of managing it. But once things start to kind of unwind and decompensate, then you need to really go back to what we call the foundation of health and establish that clean environment, low toxicity, good nutrition, filling those deficiencies, living a lifestyle and harmony with nature. Getting enough sunlight, getting enough sleep, you know, getting enough hydration, decreasing stress in your life, going above and beyond to create an environment for your body to heal.

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29:58 So if you want to protect your energy levels, sleep and biology from artificial blue light, head over to the description and you will. Find all of the links with a massive discount on my favorite blue light blocking glasses. Oh yeah, fantastic breakdown. Let's go down the list of things that are actually toxic for human beings just to make everybody aware. You're already listed quite a few there. But if we just list them like all, so people can be aware about all of the things in their life which are sabotaging their health and unknowingly we know without them knowing, what are some things that are that people are doing every day that they're unaware of, that they're exposed to, that they can, you know, try and mitigate or minimize or remove from their life.

30:37 Because, you know, many times when we think about health, we think about adding things, adding supplements, adding bio hacks, adding more and more and more things to our life and our bodies. Just like, you know, totally freaked out and we're not getting better because we're not actually removing the source of the problem, right? So let's become aware about the source of the problem. Tell me yes. I would, I would put, I would explain this, I would answer this question in terms of four pillars. These are the four pillars of health.

31:08 We call it the foundation of health that we teach all of our clients. So there's detoxification, nutrition style and the mind. So we could let's talk about each one of those with with with detoxification, you want to decrease your toxic load by decreasing environmental toxins. And this is pretty common sense. Like you can get environmental toxins literally anywhere, especially in the modern world. You know, a lot of the gadgets and products that we use are not made of great materials. So plastics, you know, Teflon in our in our cook, cookware fragrances and air fresheners, all sorts of chemicals that we spray that smell synthetic that we put on our skin, body care products that we clean with obviously toxins in our air.

32:00 We should use air filtration for that toxins in our water supply. We should have a good water filtration system. A lot of things in our home can off gas, whether it's, you know, fake furniture made of that processed wood and glue that can off gas chemicals, carpets, which can hold plastics and, and flame retardants and, and harbor mold and things like this. A lot of furniture can have like flame retardants that can be off gas and chemicals continuously. You know, that whole like new car smell or new house smell, that's the smell of a lot of toxic chemicals.

32:41 And, and a lot of that comes from just cheap production, you know, building homes with cheap materials, the products we buy being used with cheap materials like plastics and things like that. So again, I think this is kind of common sense. It's like if it's synthetic, if it's, if it wasn't cut down from a tree or, you know, derived from Mother Nature, the likelihood that is going to create toxicity is much higher. Right Clothing as well, polyester and, and the, you know, the, the potential problem with microplastics, I mean, microplastics alone is a huge issue.

33:14 So that's kind of how I would think about detoxification and, and environmental toxins is just decreasing your exposure to all of these things that that that you're around all the time. Really quickly just to touch on the other pillars, you know, nutrition obviously with processed food, seed oils, food chemicals and additives. So that's kind of its own category of toxins is just the food that we're consuming. And then? The way I would answer the question with the other pillars is, is again like, like stresses on the system, you know, so a lack of sunlight is a stress.

33:52 I, I wouldn't necessarily say it's like a toxicity, but it's like a stress. So, you know, the, the lifestyle pillar is about being in alignment with the environment on the planet, with the way that we evolved or the way that our bodies were designed to thrive on the planet. You know what? Morning and evening routine, sunlight, a balanced schedule, good sleep, movement and exercise, right? And then finally, the last pillar is the mind and just, you know, toxic people, toxic emotions and thoughts, false belief systems about who we are that you can consider like a toxicity on the body or a stress on the body.

34:37 So we, you know, we should be systematically removing those negative belief patterns kind of thoughts negative people. So I went a little bit beyond maybe the scope of the question, but I wanted to kind of be, you know, comprehensive about it. No, that was. Fantastic. And that's what I want to hear. And I think that the audience needs to hear this because they need to understand that toxicity is not just as simple as something that you consume. Of course, actually, one important thing that you mentioned there is that a lot of people don't realize that food can act as a stressor on the body.

35:08 They just think that food or whatever is something that is in the store that is supposingly edible is actually OK for you to consume just because it's there on the shelf for you to buy. It's just the difference is it's not in the DIY store, it's in the supermarket, you know what I mean? And it's just kind of like the same thing. They're just like putting it in the wrong department pretty much and you're consuming it. And, and so here we are like, you know, stressing our body from all of these different categories that you mentioned.

35:37 And I guess the, the thing to sum it all up, as you said at the, the beginning, is stress, right? Stress is like pretty much the root cause of most of our issues these days. That's that's why it's one of the, I think up there with one of the leading causes of death, right, is the, it's just chronic stress. Because chronic stress, whether that's psychological or physiological, from all of these different factors that you mentioned, then it can break us down over time because we know that the body cannot heal, repair, detoxify, and regenerate if it's not in a parasympathetic state.

36:10 It's all the time sympathetically driven sympathetic dominance, then we are all the time running away from a tiger. And then none of those functions can pretty much take place. And unfortunately, in this modern world that we're living in right now, that's why we're wearing this blue light blocking glasses, right? We're trying to mitigate that external threat on our system and also the wrong timing so it doesn't act like an additional stressor on our system. Now, of course, we've got Wi-fi's, which is another issue.

36:38 All of these things can be added to the environmental stressors And well, all what you can do really about that is I guess build resilience because of course you can, you know, be afraid and scared of all these things that are trying to kill you or or you know, intoxicate your system. But then you want to build enough resilience so capacity within your system. And that leads me into my next question about what is life force energy and why is it important for us to understand this? Because this is where you know, this actually ties into resilience yet to.

37:13 Me life for understanding what the life force is, is the difference between good holistic medicine and bad holistic medicine Because there's a lot of alternative medicine schools out there like functional medicine, which is really no different philosophically from conventional medicine. Basically, the way that conventional medicine works is they treat the body like a machine that breaks down and you have to kind of repair the the the machine and put the body back together. Now that works very well for certain circumstances, like I always use the analogy like if you're shot in the chest when you're bleeding out, it works well to think about the body like a machine.

38:00 You're losing blood. The heart can't pump, so you need to keep the heart pumping. You need to replace the lost blood. You need to plug the hole. It's, it's a very mechanical problem, right? Yes, same with you, same with it. If you, you know, destroy your shoulder or your knee, a surgeon is going to look at the the mechanical parts that have been damaged and either repair them or replace them. So that's a very mechanical way of looking at the body that works for some things. The scope of of of that paradigm that was just very limited.

38:32 And what the conventional medical model has done is it's applied that to everything, to even to chronic illnesses where now we're trying to look at biochemical pathways and receptors and genes and thinking about these as like broken parts that need to be fixed with drugs. And then functional medicine, functional medicine has arisen out of this kind of desire for an alternative. But what's happened is they do more functional extensive testing. So they, they test for more things than your typical doctor will do.

39:02 But then the, the norm, the, the typical solution for those problems is just to give you supplements, to try to correct it, to try to rebalance your levels, to try to get biochemical pathways to, to function more efficiently. You're still looking at the body like a machine. You're still looking at the body mechanistically. And that's how people end up seeing a functional medicine doctor thinking that this is a good alternative to conventional medicine. And they pay thousands and thousands of dollars for labs.

39:30 They're on hundreds of supplements and they don't get any better because the paradigm is still mechanistic. It's still like conventional medicine. The recognition of the life force is that there is something inherent within us with inherent within the the planet that God created that spontaneously orders things and organizes things, that spontaneously heals us. It's this, it's this like invisible energy. And that might sound really far out, but it's very easily observable. It's like if you get a cut on your arm, your body will mend that together.

40:05 If you break a bone, your body will mend that together. You just have to put the bones back together. And accept them, but then the body will completely mend it. The same goes with chronic illnesses. It's no different. People think that like a chronic illness is like a different category for some reason that like, oh, we need the professionals now to come in and, and manage the problem. And it's like, no, no, the the body will heal that the same way that it'll heal a cut or a broken bone or anything else.

40:32 You just need to give the body the right conditions so that the life force can actually work right. So you don't have to make your heartbeat, you don't have to make your lungs breathe, you don't have to make your thyroid release thyroid hormone. Your body does this spontaneously. If you believe in the life force, you trust that there's an organizing principle in nature and life, then you stop trying to micromanage problems, right? You, you, you're no, you no longer tinker with the biochemistry. You realize you can take a step back.

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42:37 Yes, absolutely. It's like the body has this innate wisdom. To heal and repair itself, if we exactly as you said, put it in the right environment to do so. And it's the reason why we are seeing so much disease these days is because our environment has changed so much over the years. Unfortunately, with all of the, you know, air pollution, light pollution, sound pollution, it's basically everything is pretty much an attack on our spirit really, and our soul. Because we know that if our vessel, our body is not healthy, we cannot embody our highest self like the best version of ourselves, right?

43:15 So that we are more easily manipulated into doing things that are not in alignment with our values. We don't, you know what our actual values are because we lose touch with reality due to social media, due to screens, due to disconnection from, you know, your real tribe. And then there we are manifesting all of these physical symptoms, wondering how did we actually get here? But in reality, it's just that we have just simply disconnected ourselves from the natural world which we have evolved to be in and then also from each other.

43:49 I feel like the one of the most underrated things when it it comes to health is actually social connection and tribe and feeling safe in your tribe. And in the past, we always used to trust, you know, we used to be able to believe and have trust and faith in our tribe. And if we didn't, well, we wouldn't feel safe. We would feel under threat, right? And that would be a real stressor on our system. And we will do something about that. Whereas now we just have that there all the time subconsciously because we're all the time isolating ourselves stuck indoors on screens, just believing that social connection online is the same as physical connection.

44:28 I'm not saying that artificial connection or connection online is bad. I'm just saying there is some missing elements that your body and is not receiving, right, You are. There are some missing signals, like right now I'm seeing you through a screen, but I'm not able to scan your body and your face and your smell and the color and everything like I would in real life. So there is something fundamentally missing. And so now my nervous system is kind of like a little bit on the edge subconsciously, even whether I'm aware I'm aware of it or not.

45:00 And so all the time we have again, this increased level of stress, which is adding to our total burden. So you described it beautifully. And I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on cellular voltage. How does cellular voltage fit into the story of life force energy? I would kind of. See it as like one in the same or, or different ways of measuring the same concept. So you know, there's this idea of Qi in Chinese medicine and acupuncture and that's what you're tapping into with the meridians.

45:32 You could think of you could think of the acupuncture needles as like little antennas where you're actually concentrating the life force energy from the ether and, and putting it into different channels within the body. You could also think about metabolic energy. You know, the, the, the school of thought around this is bio energetics. You're increasing the, the cellular energy, the, the, the voltage or the electrons that are passing through the mitochondria, which are, which are giving the body energy and, and animating life.

46:04 And you know, that's a more biochemical or physiologic way of looking at it. But I feel like these are all different layers of the same kind of phenomenon. And you know, you, you touched on something really interesting about the, the current, the environment that we live in, so disconnected from nature. You know, I see that a big part of our work in in holistic health is just trying to recreate a natural environment for ourselves like we used to have for thousands of years. It's just going back to the basics of what a natural healthy environment even looks like.

46:46 But you, it gets into other pieces because you, you know, you mentioned how our, our society is very disconnected. So there's a cultural element there that we're, we're talking through screens and, and things like this. Robert Malone is a a medical doctor that was one of the developers of the mRNA technology, and he has been on Joe Rogan a number of times. And he was kind of like a whistleblower for the technology, explaining that there's some real dangers about it that aren't being talked about.

47:18 And he used the term mass formation psychosis to describe this phenomenon that during lockdowns, everyone was isolated. And that's extremely unnatural. And this is a tool that tyrannical or fascist governments use to get people to comply with their with their governance. So you isolate everyone, which is an extreme stress. And then people want the the suffering to end. So then the government offers the solution and says, well, this can all end if you just do this and, and everyone says, yes, OK, we'll do whatever you want.

47:58 Please just let the, the, our society reopen again. So, and this kind of gets into it being almost a spiritual battle, a spiritual issue. And again, I think that these are all, these are all layers of looking at the same phenomenon. You could say that the life force is a spiritual energy. You could also say that it's a bioelectrical phenomenon or a or a mitochondrial energy phenomenon. These are just layers, I think of describing the same kind of thing. But at the end of the day, in the final analysis, I do think it it, it's like that energy is behind everything, unseen energy.

48:36 You could call that God, you could call it whatever you want, but that's really what's going on behind the scenes. And you could, you could look at kind of what's taking place on the planet right now fundamentally as like a good versus evil kind of spiritual warfare connect with a like. Minded Community Get ad free episodes Submit your burning desire questions to the guests of the show to just topics and guests that you would love to see on the show. Get access to my programs, protocols and blogs as well.

49:02 Has exclusive discounts on my one-on-one coaching programs. Get access to the fitness wisdom. Podcast community starting from just $2.00 a month. The link is in the description. I look forward to seeing you in there 100%. Yeah, you're totally right on that one. I fully resonate with that. I had a dream the other night. I don't normally share my dreams, but here we go. So basically I had a dream that, you know, I, I was talking to myself in the dream. It was really weird. That was like I was hearing myself, but I was talking to myself.

49:30 I guess it, you could call it higher yourself. I don't know. And I was telling myself that I can tell your hormone levels or I can tell your health by looking at your aura. That was such a like, weird, weird dream. But then it was, it really hit like a very important point. And it really resonated with me deep inside that, yeah, it's true that when I look at someone, you know how they say that don't judge a book by its cover, I kind of feel like they that was like a persuasion, you know what? Because actually you can tell a lot about the, you know, of course that's different when it comes to books, right?

50:05 But then you know, when it comes to an individual, if a person is glowing, if they have good energy, if they have good vibes, if you feel comfortable around them, that tells you something that there is something fundamental about that individual that they are. How do you say they are anchored in their nervous system state? They are, they are secure, they are grounded. And then that energy is very inviting. And then I feel, I feel that that is also built through foundational principles, not only spiritually, but you know, physically as well.

50:37 And you're touched upon bioenergetics there. And I want you to go a bit deeper into that and explain that to us, the concept about it and about the idea of doing specific diets, because everybody has a dogmatic view about diet these days, right? But no one is actually discussing what do you actually need in a diet in order for it to be healthy? How can that actually support your bioenergy energetics about your your your life force energy so that you can glow from the inside? Yes, I think a. Helpful way that I, I look at this is that stress leads to disease and energy leads to health, right?

51:16 So health and energy are, are kind of synonymous concepts. If, if you're if you're trying to heal, you need to build enough energy in the system in order to overcome the toxicity or the problem and actually repair the tissue. And a lot of things that we do in the name of health actually deplete our energy. So diet's a very good example. People get very attached to thinking about diet in very rigid ways and like restricting things and, and, and trying to force these like weird physiological states.

51:59 Like again, like what when it comes to, you know, carnivore, A keto like decreasing your blood sugar to a very low level just because the idea that blood sugar is bad for you like these kind of like weird ideas. And then we get into these restrictive dogmatic diets. When I think a much better way of thinking about nutrition is that our diet and food fundamentally needs to give our body energy, that's literally what it's doing. So if the dietary paradigm that you're following doesn't have that at its base, then it's likely going to lead to problems because you're not going to be considering how your food is actually increasing your bio energetic energy, right?

52:40 So when you think it in terms of energy, it changes the kinds of foods that you focus on. You focus on foods that are going to get to boost your mitochondria, that are going to produce high amounts of ATP. You stop thinking so much in terms of restricting things and and having these strange assumptions about diet like, oh, well, we should eat like caveman 8 because they knew what they were talking about, or we should eat this way or that way. You stop thinking in terms of these strange dogmatic ideas and assumptions, and you start actually using nutrition as a tool for healing.

53:18 And there's many other things. And this kind of gets back to the, you know, that graphic post of like healthy things that are actually unhealthy. You know, people think that like running marathons, for example, and doing HIT workouts 5 * a week is healthy for you. I would never, ever recommend someone train and run a marathon or start doing hit workouts if they're trying to heal from an illness because that's going to be depleting all of your energy. It's not to say that all running is bad or that you can't have a really hard workout sometimes, but a lot of people stress their bodies in this attempt to be healthy.

53:57 The same with cold plunging. There's a lot of people now that have come to realize that that cold plunging can be very stressful for you. Now, I think that we we are very much on the same page, like with the salmon and with the nuts and seeds. I feel the same with cold plunging. It's like I'm not against exposing the body cold water. Yeah, Yeah. You know, cold there. There's a million positive benefits of exposing the body to cold. And like, I, you know, I, I, I wonder if these people that are so against cold plunging would, wouldn't jump in the ocean like on a cold day when the water's like 50°, like that's, that's cold plunging.

54:34 It's like, are you saying that like it's not healthy to jump in, in cold ocean water? It's, it's about the exposure, it's about the frequency, it's about the exposure. It's about how cold the water is. And, and you know, to their point, people have taken it way too far. They think that a, you know, so I, I work in Fahrenheit, so it would be like 34° tub that would be like what like 1°C water for 5 minutes every day is good for you. Like I wouldn't you know, that's extremely stressful. But it's not to say that doing short moderate cold plunging, especially after a sauna, doing like that hot cold therapy or or contrast therapy is wrong.

55:18 So again, I think it it goes back to context, but it's very helpful to think again about disease happening due to too much stress and their psychological stress. But there's also physiological stress. So prolonged cold exposure and prolonged aerobic exercise, these kinds of things are stressful to the body physiologically, Yes, and. Going back to why we started about the nutrition you, you mentioned about like people alter to altering their metabolisms on purpose because they have, you know, we're, we're told that, for example, when you're in a ketogenic state, it has some benefits and I'm sure that's true.

55:56 But what happens when you push things too far, right? We, we, we, we attach the things, we, we hear something that fasting is good, cold is good, hard workouts are good. And then what we do as human beings, we think more is better. Let's just do more of that thing. And in reality, it's never like that because how it works, like how adaptation can take place is you have the, you know, have the spike of the stressor and then you have a period of recuperation and rest and restoration. So you can come back bigger, better, faster, stronger, more resilient than before.

56:27 But if you don't have the adaptation there, the adaptation period, you're just going to be digging a hole that you're never going to refill because modern life as it is right now is already digging our hole. So if you keep on adding, like for me personally, I don't do any running at all. I all I do is sprinting because I love sprinting and it's got many great like benefits on hormones. And I only do it one time per week because I'm aware about all these things that you just mentioned that it being an additional stressor.

56:55 Me doing it one time per week is amazing, in addition to a couple of other like resistance training workouts that I do outside. But if I was to do this three to four times per week on top of my resistance training, I would feel absolutely trashed even though my sprints take an average of 15 minutes in total if I do 10 or 8 rounds of all out sprints. But that is enough to deplete my entire system for a whole week. And if I'm not going to take the time to recover from that, and I do that on a regular basis because I've been told that sprints are good for me and or I want to become, you know, a top athlete.

57:32 And I believe that more is better, then I'm just going to keep on breaking my body down. And and that's definitely, definitely not good. I agree with you 100. Percent. We human beings tend to take things all the way to the extreme when really balance is almost always the right answer, 1000%. Yeah, it's, it's so important because the the nuance and the context is what is what is missing. I feel like from online world and social media, you find so many conflicting opinions. People are, are just totally confused.

58:02 You know, they're, they're going, you know, they're persuaded one way or the other way. And I know personally that social media is actually not for good at all. It's actually used for psychological, psychological manipulation and persuasion. This is why we are fed specific narratives at certain times, pushed certain songs to use on our reels, certain topics, we see certain things, certain dances, certain geometric shapes. It's literally like MK Ultra. You know, MK Ultra never ended. You know, it was, you know, the IT was with drugs initially and then it converted to blue light and electromagnetic fields.

58:41 And this war is continuously going on and on and on. And we are manipulated because we are. How would you say, yeah, we are doing, we are doing it right. So if you step away from it and you don't do it anymore, if you don't use it, you can start to see the bigger picture. You become like an eagle that zooms out and you can see what's actually going on. Imagine like, you know when you're scrolling and you can't stop scrolling. If you imagine yourself out of your body and you look down at yourself, do you think that's a pretty image of yourself?

59:14 Would you, would you say something to yourself? Would you say that maybe you are wasting your life or is it something nothing useful? Is it giving you something back in return? And I'm not, I'm not saying that people can't use social media for good as you and me are doing a spreading a good message and putting a good knowledge and information and wisdom out there to empower people. But then once you've got enough of that, it's important to not get lost into these real, real tabs and short tabs and TikTok scrolls, because the reels tab is specifically designed to keep you longer on the platform.

59:50 You know, on Instagram, for example, and on the same on YouTube, YouTube shorts. If you're on the YouTube short feed, you're going to keep on scrolling and you're going to find try and find something, which is going to trigger your dopamine. And if you don't find something, you're going to keep on scrolling until you find something. And this is the way that these. Technologies have been designed by design on purpose to keep you hooked on these platforms. And that is that is sucking another way, which is sucking our life force energy, our cellular energy out of ourselves.

1:00:19 And when you stop doing that and you put it down, you feel like crap. And then in order to raise your dopamine again, you go back on your device and you're in this perpetual loop. So it's so important to be self aware, have different ways of scanning yourself, scanning your environment, scanning your body. How do you feel right now? You're breathing. Do you feel like your chest is tight? Do you feel anxious for no reason? Like all of these things can just be because of the world that we are living in right now.

1:00:49 How important do you think purpose actually is for our health? Oh, it might it. Might be the most important thing because health is just a vehicle. A lot of people make health into the destination when health is really the vehicle and the and the your purpose is the destination. You know, you could say that God's plan for you is the destination, you know, so health is is, is just designed to give you the capacity to manifest the life that God wants you to live. I see a lot of people in the health space.

1:01:27 They, it's like they make health their religion, you know, and I think that having a deeper purpose, it's like, and, and that could just be, you know, waking the, the population up, like what we're doing, educating people, helping other people to become more healthy. That could, that could be a purpose. I'm not saying that that's not a legitimate purpose, but the the point is that our health is meant to serve a function. We're not, you know, we're not going to, we're not like a statue that's going to stand with like this beautiful physique for everyone to look at without serving any role in, in, in the world, right?

1:02:05 But a lot of people make their health into like this physical specimen that they can show off or something. So yeah, man, I, I agree with that a 1,000,000%. And I think that finding your purpose that that praying to God and asking God what he wants to you for you to do that can be one of the greatest ways to heal from a chronic problem is to have that like that light that you're going towards right? Without purpose. It's like, well, what are we, what are we doing here? Your skin. Is. Not just a barrier, it's a living organ.

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1:03:10 Tricopper peptides are known for the skin repair and renewal properties while methylene blue is known for its very potent antioxidant and protective properties against oxidative stress. So if you want to check out the all natural, non-toxic skin care that I love to use on a daily basis, go to the description below and use the promo code attached to get a nice discount on your entire order. Hmm, beautifully said. Yeah, it's so important to have. Also, again, as you mentioned about some sort of connection.

1:03:38 Some belief to some higher power greater than yourself. It's very easy to believe that you are God, right? Especially in a world that we are living in right now and with AI, like many people have made AI their gods and that's a very dangerous game. You want to have like some think about some greater power greater than yourself that is governing our entire planet, our entire universe, the trees, you know, the sea, the seasons. That is something greater than you out there, which can be extremely powerful and assistive for you if you are willing to accept its power pretty much.

1:04:15 And it's all it's asking is your acceptance. And it just takes a lot of humility to get there right. Takes a lot of to be to accept that you are not the most important thing in the world and there is something greater than you that brought you here. And again, it ties into your life force energy, into your resilience, into your health and how actually you can use the universe or the OR God's power to embody better your highest self so that you can serve humanity the best that you can, You know, on a daily basis, because we all know that when we're not feeling good, we're shit to other human beings.

1:04:53 That's I can say that for myself for as a fact, if I'm not feeling good, you know, I can't be good to others around me. I'm Moody and you know, I, you know, I want to just hideaway. Whereas if I'm feeling good, I can give to others. Like if I have an overflowing cup of energy, life force energy now I couldn't be the best version of myself. I can bring my best self forward and lead by example and lift others up rather than put them down. And to be honest, like the majority of the messages on my podcast is about empowerment and not by not and bringing the nuance perspective.

1:05:28 Not necessarily bashing anybody because I feel like everyone has a point. Vegans have a point, carnivores have a point. Like everybody has a point. I just feel like we just need to extract what's useful from every single thing and discard what doesn't serve us because we are all again, so bio individual, like our bodies so different. You know, we have maybe slightly different anatomy in terms of our bio mechanics and our biochemistry. There are many, many different things. We're all as different situations in life and ages in our life and we must just take what's useful.

1:06:02 So again, for everybody who's listening to this episode, then you managed to make it this far, take what's useful, useful from this and just, you know, try and apply some of these things that we mentioned or remove, which we talked a lot about and and just see for yourself how you feel, right? If experiment use make your body the lab rat like like I do myself, and I'm sure that Doctor Alex does as well that, you know, if you don't test things out for yourself, you don't know, and then you're just blindly trusting people online about certain things.

1:06:31 And then only then can you actually decide, OK, whether something is good for you or not. But at the end, end of the day, there are always some foundational principles, which Doctor Alex highlighted on there, which is like, you know, going back to nature, eating real food, sleeping, connecting with your tribe, you know, moving your body often exercising, but not exercising too much. You know, there is like there is a balance and a nuance to everything and context everything. And so it's important that you guys take the message of that you shouldn't abuse something just because it's good because in in a way, if you do something of a too much of a good thing can become a bad thing eventually.

1:07:10 So do you have any last words of wisdom, Doctor Alex, before we sign off the show? Really well said. Man, I think to one of the points that you made, you know, one of the things that people have lost touch with is their intuition. And, and you could say that's your internal knowing, or again, you could say that that's God speaking through you, but experimenting yourself, seeing things for yourself, trusting what you see with your eyes, feeling how things feel for you and taking what works and, and discarding what doesn't.

1:07:45 Trusting yourself, you know, your, your body is like I, I, I definitely don't agree that your body is like mechanistic at all, but it's like a supercomputer beyond our wildest dreams. So our ability to sense the world around us, like sense people's aura, get that intuitive feeling about about things and feel how things are working for us. You know, no one can no one can tell you how something impacts you personally. No one can get inside of your head and inside of your body and feel what's happening for you.

1:08:18 So getting back in touch with your intuition and, and again, I always go back to God to, to praying to God and, and asking God for, for clarity and developing that personal relationship that will get you farther than any research study that's ever been made, 100%. Yeah, definitely. And you know, if you don't want people to suck your energy and to, you know, become energy vampires, because there's many people out there who are trying to drain your energy and suck your energy. The more you step into your power as a human being, the more you trust and you believe yourself, the more you cultivate your health.

1:08:56 And then that radiates that life force energy. And you have the energy now to listen and take care of yourself more. And then that drives you more down this path of self development. The more your Ora is sort of like a shield, right, which is unpenetrated able. But if you're, you know, not taking care of your health, that's just one of the ways that people can more easily manipulate you. And this is basically what's happening in the world right now with all these big elite forces. You know, they're trying to like suppress our health.

1:09:27 They're spraying these chemicals in the sky. They're trying to inject the entire planet. They're putting toxic stuff in our food. They're trying to poison us from every single direction. But this is where This is why it's the greatest act of rebellion. If you actually take care of yourself, you, you nurture yourself and then that way they can't touch you. That way your stress bucket is bigger. That way your resilience is, is greater. And then you know, you're more likely to be able to overcome anything that they throw out you.

1:09:57 So thank you so much, Doctor Alex. Where can people actually find you, connect with you and work with you if they wish to do so? So all all the. Major platforms Alex Orton dot ND on Instagram, our business website, ishavenholistichealth.com and the the first step to working with me one-on-one is scheduling a free consultation. So there's buttons on the website and and in bio to do that if you want to chat. Amazing. Amazing. Thank you so much for doing this and I definitely love to do another one in the future.

1:10:29 Sounds great, Andreas. Thank you ma'am, if you guys enjoy the. Topics and guests I bring on the show, I would really appreciate if you left me a five star review on Spotify and subscribe to Fitness Wisdom podcast on YouTube as well. This helps to spread the knowledge and wisdom with the world. Until next time.